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It's pretty hard for you to have any of his draws dominated, so I like calling the flop here and shipping over his turn bet if you think he bet/folds some on the turn.

With a hand like AQ I like raise/calling the flop a lot more, as you crush hands like offsuit J9s, and lower unpaired flushdraws/flushdraw + straightdraw combinations.

If he led 14k on the turn I think folding is just best. You have to call 14 to win maybe 19k so the pot odds you're getting are pretty bad, and I don't think he ever bet/folds for this sizing. Quite low implied odds as well IMO as you have the flopped flushdraw, so it's often tough for him to call you on the river if you make your hand. If he led 9k on the turn I think calling is fine, but possibly going all-in is better as such a weak bet can be interpreted as a block bet, so we can shove and still have pretty good equity when called.

Originally posted by chenny8888
It's pretty hard for you to have any of his draws dominated, so I like calling the flop here and shipping over his turn bet if you think he bet/folds some on the turn.

With a hand like AQ I like raise/calling the flop a lot more, as you crush hands like offsuit J9s, and lower unpaired flushdraws/flushdraw + straightdraw combinations.

If he led 14k on the turn I think folding is just best. You have to call 14 to win maybe 19k so the pot odds you're getting are pretty bad, and I don't think he ever bet/folds for this sizing. Quite low implied odds as well IMO as you have the flopped flushdraw, so it's often tough for him to call you on the river if you make your hand. If he led 9k on the turn I think calling is fine, but possibly going all-in is better as such a weak bet can be interpreted as a block bet, so we can shove and still have pretty good equity when called.

This though personally I don't raise flop without a set. Like the call, shove turn line if he is reg.

Originally posted by amplifyd

Originally posted by chenny8888
It's pretty hard for you to have any of his draws dominated, so I like calling the flop here and shipping over his turn bet if you think he bet/folds some on the turn.

With a hand like AQ I like raise/calling the flop a lot more, as you crush hands like offsuit J9s, and lower unpaired flushdraws/flushdraw + straightdraw combinations.

If he led 14k on the turn I think folding is just best. You have to call 14 to win maybe 19k so the pot odds you're getting are pretty bad, and I don't think he ever bet/folds for this sizing. Quite low implied odds as well IMO as you have the flopped flushdraw, so it's often tough for him to call you on the river if you make your hand. If he led 9k on the turn I think calling is fine, but possibly going all-in is better as such a weak bet can be interpreted as a block bet, so we can shove and still have pretty good equity when called.

This though personally I don't raise flop without a set. Like the call, shove turn line if he is reg.

i've been playing my nutted flushdraws a lot faster these days. how often have you personally thought (with non-nut flush draws) "man i have 2 overcards and a flushdraw, or man i have a gutty and a flushdraw... he either has top pair or a set, i'm ahead against top pair and doing OK against a set too... all-in!!"

cause yeah, you're crushed against the NFD

Originally posted by chenny8888
i've been playing my nutted flushdraws a lot faster these days. how often have you personally thought (with non-nut flush draws) "man i have 2 overcards and a flushdraw, or man i have a gutty and a flushdraw... he either has top pair or a set, i'm ahead against top pair and doing OK against a set too... all-in!!"

cause yeah, you're crushed against the NFD

if stacks were a little shallower and we could induce a bit more spaz stuff i'm more for raising but i mean havent played around with stove but aren't we probably getting it in on near a flip - we also get quite hard decisions wen he just flats like he did in this hand - which he'll probbably do a lot because we are deep

There are a LOT of worse draws. Vs a flat we can take freecards or ship based on scariness of turn card. FWIW I'm talking about NFD

Originally posted by chenny8888
There are a LOT of worse draws. Vs a flat we can take freecards or ship based on scariness of turn card. FWIW I'm talking about NFD

Yea i know, but meh without knowing villians tendencies we can sit here arguing all day about which line is better.

Yeah you're going to be facing unknowns in MTTs a lot though and I meant this as a default line to take against people, very few people don't go crazy with Q :diamond:J here (and correctly so) as well as hands like J :diamond:9 :diamond:, J :club:9 :club:, Q :club:J :club:, and other random J9 hands.