Calling 8bb shove with EP limper

limper is adding more money to the pot, so the BTN should be shoving a bit wider (not that much, but a bit), so you can do the same.

i really see that 100 chips as a donation from a 43/4

I think his range would be more thighter than if no1 limps. Knowing that many times the fish on UTG will limp/call with a wide range, so he need to have a minimum decent hand to make that move profitable. That's my poiint, dunno if it's correct.

Yes, it does. BTN seems like a reasonable player. He probably pushes very wide first in on the BTN, but he for sure adjusts and tighten up his range once there is a loose fish already in that pot. That affects our calling range for two reasons- BTN range is much tighter for one thing + there is a guy yet to act, who might decide to overcall so we play 3-way pot.

Originally posted by kurrkabin
Yes, it does. BTN seems like a reasonable player. He probably pushes very wide first in on the BTN, but he for sure adjusts and tighten up his range once there is a loose fish already in that pot. That affects our calling range for two reasons- BTN range is much tighter for one thing + there is a guy yet to act, who might decide to overcall so we play 3-way pot.

Yeah this, even if the limper is quite a loose player I don't see BU pushing that wide compared to his first-in push range. FWIW I still call 99.