Being back in the green looks like a good start!
Build some sample, and it'll go up up and away, no doubt!
Being back in the green looks like a good start!
Build some sample, and it'll go up up and away, no doubt!
thanks a lot guys
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sorry for not posting before, too lazy ![]()
anyway i've not been playing too much. been running at ~2bb/100, even with more KK into AA without enough AA into KK to make up for it
while we're into that, LEAK FOUND:

i think it's pretty obvious what is going on.
the problem is with the CO. when you have KK there and face any decision for your entire stack, FOLD! you just can't win on the CO
cases in point:
PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): $57.82
SB: $34.47
BB: $57.09
UTG: $25.56
UTG+1: $206.90
UTG+2: $291.78
MP: $50.00
MP+1: $72.43
CO: $60.38
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A♥ A♠
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $4.56, fold, fold, CO raises to $11.00, Hero raises to $57.82 and is all-in, CO calls $46.82
Flop: ($116.39, 2 players) 6♥ 6♦ 7♠
Turn: ($116.39, 2 players) 6♣
River: ($116.39, 2 players) 7♦
CO shows K♦ K♣ (Full House, Sixes full of Kings) (Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows A♥ A♠ (Full House, Sixes full of Aces) (Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $113.89

PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): $49.94
SB: $70.58
BB: $50.00
UTG: $50.00
UTG+1: $48.66
UTG+2: $43.41
MP: $53.26
MP+1: $40.82
CO: $130.66
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A♦ A♣
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.05, fold, fold, CO raises to $20.00, Hero raises to $49.94 and is all-in, CO calls $29.94
Flop: ($100.63, 2 players) 9♣ A♠ J♠
Turn: ($100.63, 2 players) A♥

River: ($100.63, 2 players) J♣
CO shows K♣ K♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (Pre 18%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A♦ A♣ (Four of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $98.13

by now i hope that you have noticed what were their mistakes - KK on CO and should obv have folded to the 5bet for stacks. end of story
[edit: improved post ♦]
hahaha great post and i actually checked to see if it was you who made quads on my KK AIpf! ♦ but obviously not.
and...
i think it's pretty obvious what is going on. the problem is with the CO. when you have KK there and face any decision for your entire stack, FOLD! you just can't win on the CO
or from any other position!!!!
Hi, just dropping by, seeing some nice results here, nice.
Saw some hands, do you always go broke with KK pre in zoom? Or most of the time?
I am asking because I get a feeling that from zoom NL25 and up regs vs regs rarely put in stacks with KK, I saw some 5bet/fold action. But maybe it's just me.
hello sir ![]()
that's a pretty interesting question. i have already folded and just flatted KK preflop, but i think total of that was less than 10 times ![]()
now i have some thoughts on the matter but i want to ask some people around before saying something here.
for now i'll leave some FR25 graphs on KK (~60k sample):
monies somehow shipped preflop (no stack size filter)

KK overall

also, that's 25. i think that on 50 the average player is already aggressive enough to take different conclusions, but i still need more sample
Interesting graphs.
Yeah I am saying this because from the last few months of zooming, I saw regs VERY rarely go broke w/ KK pre vs me. They either 5bet / fold, or flat 4bet and go broke postflop.
This made my AA's very frustrating pre. Sometimes people were 5betting, I was thinking "finally!", I shoved and they folded. I had to adjust and trap more w/ AA
This is just my experience, dunno if that's really the case, that's why I asked.
and about KK, me and my bro call them the Cursed Kings since I lose so much money with them it's funny. It's like my bro is watching me play, fish shoves 55 vs me and we already start laughing because we know the 5 is coming. And indeed it comes.
Overall, I have won more with JJ than KK.
well that's interesting. as for myself i think i didn't see a lot of 5bet/folding, hell not even a lot of 4bet/folding. also makes me wonder what was that 5bet sizing, or how deep stacks were
same "ship it" graph, but now for AA:

seems like a fair amount of stackoffs, maybe you run bad.
also... interestingly QQ was slightly better than KK for me, $249 in EV bucks and 385bb/100, and yeah i mostly also play it "more passively"
JJ has $189 and 233bb/100
yeah could be sample size issues, but still that's some pretty interesting data on zoom25 games.
sooo...
my conclusion is that, specially when you are on early positions, you should not really expect to be ahead when shipping it with KK (!) since against regs you'll face AA more often than QQ, AK (i feel that most on FR25 don't even 3bet these vs fullring utg, don't blame them) and they don't bluff enough either.
so it comes down as to whether you think that they can ever have QQ, AK (or a bluff)... if you already saw them call utg raises with these hands, then they probably can't, but if you think that they CAN be shipping these then it should be a ship.
in any case i'd still ship it vs unknowns and on mp+. people preflop more aggressively on later positions (as we all know), so there is at least dead money and avoid A high flops
seriously NL2 is SOOOOOOOO fun
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $0.98
Hero (SB): $1.99
BB: $0.82
UTG: $3.05
MP: $3.18
CO: $2.16
Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 4♣ 4♠
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.04, BB raises to $0.14, Hero raises to $0.24, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.48, 2 players) J♠ T♠ 4♥
Hero bets $0.24, BB raises to $0.58 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.34
Turn: ($1.64, 2 players) J♥
River: ($1.64, 2 players) K♥
Hero shows 4♣ 4♠ (Full House, Fours full of Jacks) (Pre 69%, Flop 98%, Turn 84%)
BB shows J♦ 2♥ (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 31%, Flop 2%, Turn 16%)
Hero wins $1.58

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): $2.52
SB: $1.64
BB: $1.64
UTG: $1.90
MP: $2.05
CO: $8.21
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A♣ A♥
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.52 and is all-in, SB calls $1.63 and is all-in, fold
Flop: ($3.30, 2 players) K♦ 8♣ Q♣
Turn: ($3.30, 2 players) T♣
River: ($3.30, 2 players) Q♥
SB shows T♠ J♠ (Two Pair, Queens and Tens) (Pre 22%, Flop 23%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows A♣ A♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 78%, Flop 77%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins $3.18

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $2.12
SB: $0.98
BB: $1.98
UTG: $5.49
MP: $3.13
Hero (CO): $4.05
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 8♣ 9♦
fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, fold, BB calls $0.02
Flop: ($0.13, 3 players) T♣ 7♠ A♣
BB checks, Hero bets $0.08, BTN calls $0.08, BB raises to $0.26, Hero calls $0.18, BTN calls $0.18
Turn: ($0.91, 3 players) 7♣
BB checks, Hero bets $0.47, fold, BB calls $0.47
River: ($1.85, 2 players) 3♥
BB checks, Hero bets $3.28 and is all-in, BB calls $1.21 and is all-in
Hero shows 8♣ 9♦ (One Pair, Sevens) (Pre 35%, Flop 33%, Turn 34%)
BB shows A♥ T♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Tens) (Pre 65%, Flop 67%, Turn 66%)
BB wins $4.12

oops
as is NL50
PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): $50.08
SB: $46.68
BB: $25.00
UTG: $61.55
UTG+1: $54.15
UTG+2: $50.00
MP: $20.85
MP+1: $49.25
CO: $29.38
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J♣ J♦
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.17, SB raises to $3.50, fold, Hero calls $2.33
Flop: ($7.50, 2 players) 4♠ J♥ 6♥
SB checks, Hero bets $3.86, SB raises to $9.00, Hero raises to $22.22, SB raises to $43.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $20.96
LOL aces!
Turn: ($93.86, 2 players) 3♠
River: ($93.86, 2 players) 9♦
SB shows A♥ J♠ (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 30%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows J♣ J♦ (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 70%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $91.36

oops
PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $51.01
SB: $50.00
BB: $25.00
UTG: $46.52
UTG+1: $56.51
UTG+2: $52.04
Hero (MP): $51.69
MP+1: $97.48
CO: $22.12
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has T♣ 9♣
fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.25, fold, Hero calls $1.25, fold, CO calls $1.25, fold, fold, fold
Flop: ($4.50, 3 players) 8♦ 4♥ 4♣
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.32, CO calls $2.32, fold
Turn: ($9.14, 2 players) 7♥
Hero checks, CO checks
River: ($9.14, 2 players) 7♦
Hero checks, fold
Hero wins $8.73

i still have no idea what kind of air he had there
Awesome mate. This is possibly the best blog ever.
Looking forward to watch this video:

♦
Originally posted by Tomaloc
PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4BTN: $51.01
SB: $50.00
BB: $25.00
UTG: $46.52
UTG+1: $56.51
UTG+2: $52.04
Hero (MP): $51.69
MP+1: $97.48
CO: $22.12SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has T♣ 9♣
fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.25, fold, Hero calls $1.25, fold, CO calls $1.25, fold, fold, fold
Flop: ($4.50, 3 players) 8♦ 4♥ 4♣
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.32, CO calls $2.32, foldTurn: ($9.14, 2 players) 7♥
Hero checks, CO checksRiver: ($9.14, 2 players) 7♦
Hero checks, foldHero wins $8.73
i still have no idea what kind of air he had there
pretty sure some fish do this thinking they are clever... "oh well i know he has the pair and i have nothing but im just gunna show him i know he has it and i have nothing". or something ♦
Originally posted by bbosstjan
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will be watching!
Originally posted by bbosstjan
Awesome mate. This is possibly the best blog ever.
Looking forward to watch this video:
♦
thank you sir ♦
it's a good video!
however by now it's already quite outdated in relation to my actual style
Originally posted by DrDunne
Spoiler
Originally posted by Tomaloc
PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4BTN: $51.01
SB: $50.00
BB: $25.00
UTG: $46.52
UTG+1: $56.51
UTG+2: $52.04
Hero (MP): $51.69
MP+1: $97.48
CO: $22.12SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has T♣ 9♣
fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.25, fold, Hero calls $1.25, fold, CO calls $1.25, fold, fold, fold
Flop: ($4.50, 3 players) 8♦ 4♥ 4♣
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.32, CO calls $2.32, foldTurn: ($9.14, 2 players) 7♥
Hero checks, CO checksRiver: ($9.14, 2 players) 7♦
Hero checks, foldHero wins $8.73
i still have no idea what kind of air he had there
pretty sure some fish do this thinking they are clever... "oh well i know he has the pair and i have nothing but im just gunna show him i know he has it and i have nothing". or something ♦
well yeah ♦
but really, what kind of air could he have there? this guy was doing his fair share of folding, so i just thought "he gots it" ![]()
65 completed (as did 76), A high checks behind, no shame in crying with 33-22.
so i'm at a loss
almost took a shot at zoom100

...almost.
i blanked out all colours in order to not libel the players involved. you might somehow guess what they meant though
mwahahah
PokerStars - $0.50 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $53.11
SB: $25.50
BB: $122.30
Hero (UTG): $55.67
UTG+1: $122.69
UTG+2: $145.72
MP: $39.49
MP+1: $54.69
CO: $98.53
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K♣ J♣
Hero raises to $1.69, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $1.69, fold, fold, SB calls $1.44, fold
Flop: ($5.57, 3 players) 7♦ J♦ 9♥
SB checks, Hero bets $3.33, fold, SB calls $3.33
Turn: ($12.23, 2 players) 7♥
SB checks, Hero bets $6.30, SB calls $6.30
River: ($24.83, 2 players) J♠
SB checks, Hero bets $4.04, ...

SB raises to $14.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $10.14
SB shows K♠ T♠ (Two Pair, Jacks and Sevens) (Pre 30%, Flop 32%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows K♣ J♣ (Full House, Jacks full of Sevens) (Pre 70%, Flop 68%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins $50.80

At least on flop & turn he had some outs, but in river he probably thought "damn I didn't get my straigt... maybe, just maybe, he will fold if I go all in; he has to fold!"
Hero calls.
"stupid game!"
yeah, soooo rigged. i probably should have bet flop and turn bigger but didn't want to commit vs his stack
monthly recap COMING SOON!
time for the monthly recap!
this one will be pretty interesting. first off
goals:
[ ] achieve platinum status here - lololol i got way too lazy
[x] ???? - !!!!
[x] PROFIT! - $768.02 in actual profit, $562.13 in EV, not including rakeback and bonuses (nl2 not included)
so, what do i have to say about platinum failure? think i went through a little phase of not enough love for the game, running bad at the beginning didn't help.
all in all though, the tide changed and it ended up as a fairly standard month of rungood imo. definitely already feeling alright with nl50
monthly graph:

(nl2 not included)
it's funny how my EV luck in the beginning totally sucks, then later it goes all like MWAHAHAH SHIP MONIES I SUCKOUT U. that's variance for you ![]()
of course to evaluate my performance i go with EV bucks but 3.8 evbb/100 is fine.
cashier:

some of you may remember that i made a little cashout back then. handed over half to parents, then i thought i'd find something to use the rest on... but it ended up that nothing interesting popped up to do with it.
so i redeposited it for wcoop bonus ![]()
couldn't nearly reach the thing's full potential, but not that i really care. bonuses are, well, bonuses
september goals:
[ ] achieve platinum status retake
[ ] ????
[ ] PROFIT!
now i WILL make it! second time's the charm