3 barrel K high FD vs fish?

I would bet 50% pot, because fish will likely call all Ax on flop and turn and fold river, plus missed fd, which should be enough FE. Off course give up vs fish can hardly be mistake, since we know that fish is overcalling on average.

Your big bet sizes on all streets is hardly optimal vs fish when you are bluffing imo, so I would bet flop 33% pot, turn 50%, river 50%.

Betting half pot on turn is ok. Betting river when we miss is not.

I would bet 50% pot, because fish will likely call all Ax on flop and turn

what hands might fold on turn after 50 % 2nd barrel?

I use bigger sizing because to such small sizing I do not expect him to fold even 3x often.

You could have spared yourself that river, especially considering the stake you play on. Fishes are not likely to fold on low boards when they don't feel money they lose.

I think I would check flop.

Originally posted by la55i
I think I would check flop.

I was also thinking about it, but I gues we need to still cbet because he might have some cards which have 22% equuity, so at least those to fold. Like 89. For those we could use small sizing, 50% is enough, or maybe even less we need.

Originally posted by SPeedFANat1c

Originally posted by la55i
I think I would check flop.

I was also thinking about it, but I gues we need to still cbet because he might have some cards which have 22% equuity, so at least those to fold. Like 89. For those we could use small sizing, 50% is enough, or maybe even less we need.

I think both are valid options. 2 barreling sounds good too. Maybe it is even a little bit better?

cbetting vs the limper is ok. We will not get much folds but we will build a pot when we hit.

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i wouldnt check flop because vs fish i for sure want to built pot with such a strong draw in case i hit. and since any Ax makes a gutshot which fish defenitely call 2 times. i would just tripple it. any PP are only 6 combos whereas any Ax with all offsuited combos like AT are 16 combos alone. and a lot of fish like to call 2 times and hope to hit their gutshots, 2pairs overcards or whatever and if they miss they fold to third barrel. they only have such a high went to sd on those limits because players usually not tripple barrel much + they dont valuebet thin or bluff themselves. but they have usually high folds to river cbet stats.

Originally posted by SPeedFANat1c

I would bet 50% pot, because fish will likely call all Ax on flop and turn

what hands might fold on turn after 50 % 2nd barrel?

I use bigger sizing because to such small sizing I do not expect him to fold even 3x often.

vs 50% pot fish is likely going to fold very similar range as vs 3/4 pot, which is the reason why I would bet 50%. I expect fish to fold hands like JQ, KQ that floated flop vs both sizes (I think fish would call any pair twice vs any size except maybe overbet). It is off course all assumption, if you think that you get enough more FE with 3/4 comparing to 1/2 size so that your turn bet EV is higher, then ok. I used some database analyses for different bet sizes, and the result was that fish (but also regs) defend vs turn cbet very similar range vs 50% and 75%, so that 50% should be higher. I did that analyses on party poker, so it could be different on other networks. If you dont have any analyses but pure guess, then it is a gamble.

I expect fish to fold hands like JQ, KQ that floated flop vs both sizes (I think fish would call any pair twice vs any size except maybe overbet).

thats interesting, cause I did not expect even fish to have such hand on turn, unless its draws. But if those are without draws, then of course 50% is enough.

I used some database analyses for different bet sizes, and the result was that fish (but also regs) defend vs turn cbet very similar range vs 50% and 75%, so that 50% should be higher.

need analisis - what do they have on turn. Just not sure can we see them, casue if htey call KQ, they call it to bluff later. So then we need to c/c turn and c/c river if he bets again - such filter. Once we 2 or 3 barrel and he folds - we do not see his range.

how to filter hands by player's stats?

Originally posted by wealthybrainer
how to filter hands by player's stats?

maybe write custom filter script if using pokertracker

configure > statistics

had not tried this