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QJs in 3bet pot with FD OTF, check behind or bet?

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nickycakes
Joined: 10.10.2015

IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $7.98 (199.5 bb)
BB: $4.40 (110 bb)
MP: $4.04 (101 bb)
CO: $1.48 (37 bb)
Hero (BTN): $4.75 (118.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, SB folds, BB raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.72) 3 4 A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ?

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Villain is 31/25 with 6.7% 3bet, 75% fold to c-bet

OTF do I check behind for a free card, or bet for fold equity?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would bet here. I don't think villain is ever checking this flop with Ax hand and he is not 3betting 33,44 pre. We block his flush draws pretty good. Villain has QQ or KK and will fold to a bet :)


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Definitely bet.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You should bet after villain checks.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Yes, would bet as well. The check on an Ace-high board gives you high fold equity unless villain suddenly knows how to balance his range in a sophisticated matter (but I doubt that).


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nickycakes
Joined: 10.10.2015

Yeah he check-raised me pretty huge which made me question my play. I guess I played it right. Thanks guys.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Even in the scenario that he balanced his range against you (because balancing should be made quite specifically otherwise you lose value over time). Villain still should fold 70%+ of the time. One of the most profitable balances you can get by checking good / bad hands is around 80/20 (in which you check 20% of good hands).

No problems, good luck at the tables!


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by Hesticus
Even in the scenario that he balanced his range against you

Originally posted by nickycakes
IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em

lol


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nickycakes
Joined: 10.10.2015

Originally posted by MJPerry

Originally posted by nickycakes
IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em

lol

obvious bug with HM2, its .02/.04 euro, huge difference in skill


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

me? I prefer checking back this...
Ur hand have good equity, no need to force villain fold right now. Btw, I doubt many villains would fold KK, QQ, or even smaller pocket pairs like 55-JJ. Depending on villain ur fold equity is not that great, and u can get check raised, what ll really suck w this hand.


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008
MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by Afulibador
me? I prefer checking back this...
Ur hand have good equity

Define "good". Against what range do you think a queen high flush draw has good equity?

Also do we not think this is a bit of a loose call pre even in position?


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by MJPerry

Originally posted by Afulibador
me? I prefer checking back this...
Ur hand have good equity

Define "good". Against what range do you think a queen high flush draw has good equity?

Also do we not think this is a bit of a loose call pre even in position?

Definitely equity enough to turn it in to a bet/fold play on flop.
And I think its a good call, since u dont play just fit or fold and know the tendencies of villain posflop.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Btw, against a range of TT+, AK, AQ, KQ we have 39,11% equity on this flop. Not to mention if it goes a bit polarized, the equity goes wildly up _wink:

Well, almost 40% in equity seems "good" to me.


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nickycakes
Joined: 10.10.2015

villain is 3betting lot wider than that in the bb vs button I'm fairly sure


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