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VS 3BET OOP BvB: KJo Turn Spot

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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 123.16 BB
BB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.43, 3Bet Preflop: 4.88, Hands: 99)
CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 4.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 109)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 59)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♦ K♣

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) T♠ 3♦ 7♦
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 9♥
Hero bets 16 BB, BB raises to 36 BB, Hero76BB left, fold

PREFLOP:
I call because buttons?
I play this by feel entirely BvB
We played HU like 50 hands he seems to do random stuff from time to time

will work on my defaults vs different ranges + sizings later
What's your defense range here as default vs TAG

TURN
I doubt people check back strong hands very much at all at these boards and he hasn't been slowplayin in the small sample
So I bomb it to bomb ton of rag rivers, and when I hit my 2x gutter check on KJ

some old reads:

Spoiler


I kinda feel like shoving here for the same reasons I bomb it?
A call will be really borderline here


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Preflop: I don't like defending KJ here. The fact that he makes some random stuff doesn't mean he is bad (or does it?), and is probably not the ideal opponent to sit out of position of with 9% of stacks in already preflop holding KJ.

Postflop: That check-back by an unpredictable player doesn't make me feel entirely comfortable. He is not checking to give up the hand. He raises your bet. Now he is polarized. It is up to you to guess. It was your plan to bet big and keep bombing (no FE with a little bet + guy is not folding to one bet, conforms with my assessment). You had no contingency play for getting raised, and that would be the error (if any:)).


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

i would play prety much the same ... postflop we can make 2 plays

-bet big or overbet turn because we have a very strong hand (meaning that if he calls it's ok given our equity) and we hate villain getting tricky raising here
-or bet T 2/3 and reevaluate river

as played... i would call because we are drawing to the nuts and we have pretty good pot odds ... maybe implied odds too if he wakes up with 99 or J8
there is a flush draw possible which sucks but our hand is well concealed

PS for me to shove turn in that spot i must have a strong read in order to do that


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I like the way you played this. This is 4 way so it might change the dynamics a bit? <-- That is why I can agree with the 3bet pre.

OTT villain raises polarized. Our shove has great fold equity and if he calls we have double gutter and overs.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

I never call KJo preflop OOP. I would 4bet as a bluff.

bet big or overbet Flop because we have a very strong hand

I do not think that we have strong hand :)

and if he is thinking player, he might not put us on strong hand. I mean - what hand we use to donk on flop vs agro player who can cbet himself?

as played... i would call because we are drawing to the nuts and we have pretty good pot odds ... maybe implied odds too if he wakes up with 99 or J8

I think odds are not good and I would fold. There is diamonds, so we are not always having the nuts when we hit straight.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Damn, I misread the action pre. I think I would fold or 4bet it.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Mde... do notlike the call either. 4 Bet OOP with blockers sounds reasonable.
Postflop I would xc turn .


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Yes, I also had to read pre again, this was no call for me as well. 4bet or fold.
As played here, the raise OTT looks to me a slow played monster. You can safely fold IMO.


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oI2ange
Joined: 21.07.2015

This seems fine on all streets. 4-betting PF is an option, but bvb, your hand is definitely strong enough to call (PF).

I think postflop is very well played. I think villain bets the flop with a set usually. I don't like flat calling this turn as much; mainly because we're OOP. If we were in position, I'd probably call more often. Furthermore, it's tough to call because you don't have great river plans- do you just donk bet if you hit a straight? Are you doing the same if it's a diamond and turning your hand into a bluff? (I think you need to do this if you do flat call the turn raise).


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