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VS 3BET BUvSB vs Re-ios 56s

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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.41, PFR: 5.93, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 125)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.30, PFR: 25.08, 3Bet Preflop: 10.74, Hands: 647)
BB: 160.8 BB (VPIP: 55.67, PFR: 43.52, 3Bet Preflop: 12.82, Hands: 205)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 6♥ 7♥

CO checks, Hero raises to 3.8 BB, SB raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 8.2 BB

Flop: (26 BB, 2 players) J♠ 5♥ 4♣
SB bets 13.64 BB, Hero calls 13.64 BB

Turn: (53.28 BB, 2 players) 2♥
SB checks, Hero bets 29 BB, SB raises to 74.36 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 45.36 BB and is all-in

River: (202 BB, 2 players) T♦
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (202 BB, 2 players) 2♦

SB shows Q♠ Q♥ (One Pair, Queens)

Including the result because I like his play

PREFLOP
I assume a range like this for him is reasonable?
JJ+,AQs+,A5s-A2s,AJo+
as he can flat all the middling hands and ppl shouldn't have an incentive to bluff that much?

Need 31.54% Preflop

My R values I used for BUv standard turn out this

I think I should defend a tad tighter here? The offsuit gappers seem a bit too much

But regardless I'll defend my hand every time

TURN
I mean with my equity and 7 high checking back is just soo meh so just going ahead and bet calling is best here?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by LemOn36
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Including the result because I like his play
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Can you explain why?


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

It's pretty good to have a check raise range on the turn when your opponent can pick up draws + equity with a lot of hands he floated, especially with vulnerable hands
I think QQ without the Qh is a lot better to do it with though but it's still a decent line against someone like me who will defend properly pre and on flop.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Okay, I totally misread the turn actionX( Thought he bet-reraised AI.


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Pistoleroo
Joined: 06.02.2015

Like the play by both players. Although u might even tighten up his range even more because of the min 3bet. He almost doesn't have any fe. This should indicate that villian is doing this with a strong value oriented range. Unless u have a read otherwise ofcourse.


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

how much do u stab turn in 3bet pots? it looks like this guy knows what he is doing with this line vs you..or maybe i am wrong even to ask this lol :)


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

another line is to raise flop and on the blank turn check back

another line is call flop and bet 1/3 turn and fold to a shove

depends on the opponent but i think villain played this really well!


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Originally posted by Tinsley15
how much do u stab turn in 3bet pots? it looks like this guy knows what he is doing with this line vs you..or maybe i am wrong even to ask this lol :)
I check back a lot actually to bet rivers but in this case I think checking's just too weak this hand likes a bet soo soo much?


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Originally posted by bonecore
another line is to raise flop and on the blank turn check back

another line is call flop and bet 1/3 turn and fold to a shove

depends on the opponent but i think villain played this really well!

I don't really have raising ranges in these spots on flops. I know pio and high stakes players are doing it but just flat everything and then play OTT is just so much easier in terms of gameplan.

And honestly, a lot smaller on the turn is what I'd do a lot but it's really horrible to bet fold so much equity so I just made it bigger than I would usually just so I can call it off


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Pistoleroo
Joined: 06.02.2015

With 7 high we don't wanna bet small and fold to a shove with this much equity. Also the downside by betting small u induce him to make light calls by Ax/ small pocketpairs.

Checking turn is possible but we have a mandatory bluff on the river when we miss. Not a big fan of this line because villain will call us very light on the river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Pistoleroo
Like the play by both players. Although u might even tighten up his range even more because of the min 3bet. He almost doesn't have any fe. This should indicate that villian is doing this with a strong value oriented range. Unless u have a read otherwise ofcourse.

We open for nearly 4bb and villain 3b to 12bb. I do not see min 3b here...
Is villain limp/3b pre?
If so is it fair to assume he has a big pair preflop?
If so, how about xb turn?


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