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QQ 3bet 3way pot overpair vs raise

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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 110.8 BB
Hero (SB): 162.2 BB
BB: 301.4 BB
UTG: 127.6 BB
MP: 80.4 BB
CO: 60.4 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, BB calls 7 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 3 players) 8♣ J♣ 5♥
Hero bets 11.6 BB, fold, BTN raises to 36 BB, Hero calls 24.4 BB

Turn: (96 BB, 2 players) 2♦
Hero checks, BTN bets 66.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 66.8 BB

River: (229.6 BB, 2 players) 7♥

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♥ Q♣ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 81%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows 8♥ 8♦ (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 19%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 220 BB

20/16 57h

fold flop to raise becuase its 3way and almost never bluffraisin in 3way pots at micros?

Or call flop but ofld turn?

What if it was HU?

What hands do we continue vs a raise 3way and HU? JJ. Draws depending on implied odds. Are there more hands?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Yeah, I would fold the flop. He should assume that we are very strong when cbetting the flop into two so shouldn't semi-bluff us alot. I think we will be against a set there very often. I would bet the flop a bit bigger, though.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Originally posted by Alleen86
Yeah, I would fold the flop. He should assume that we are very strong when cbetting the flop into two so shouldn't semi-bluff us alot. I think we will be against a set there very often. I would bet the flop a bit bigger, though.

ok, and what about HU? I guess then there is a chance of being raised as bluff. JUst not sure how often


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by SPeedFANat1c

Originally posted by Alleen86
Yeah, I would fold the flop. He should assume that we are very strong when cbetting the flop into two so shouldn't semi-bluff us alot. I think we will be against a set there very often. I would bet the flop a bit bigger, though.

ok, and what about HU? I guess then there is a chance of being raised as bluff. JUst not sure how often

I would say that even HU folding would probably be my first option because I don't expect people to bluff raise cbets in 3bet pots generally. Probably all other options would not be bad (some would probably suggest shoving or calling), but that's just my feeling about this situation.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

It is a 3b pot and we can find a fold here as villain will have more value hands than draws.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
It is a 3b pot and we can find a fold here as villain will have more value hands than draws.

you do same in HU pot?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I hate when you miss to do the right play preflop and to ask how to get out of the .... postflop. :)
HU we can fold too. We will be vs hands with good equity.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

I hate when you miss to do the right play preflop

is smth wrong preflop?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Just sayin...


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