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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

Hi everyone! =)

I'm in the Spin legend team and looking to keep track of my progress :milord:
I will post progress and impression of my journey here, once a month.
On this first post, you'll find the graph/summary of my progress. I will update it once a month.
I'm not a native English speaker, so feel free to put me on blast about my grammar in a private message.

I'm a Hypnotherapist/Student :f_biggrin:

I will not discuss particular arrangement with Spin Legend here :ayfkm:
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Monthly reports
First Month: let's start
Second Month: move up to 3$
Third Month: Internship
Fourth Month: donk donk donk?
Fifth Month: last month with Silver strategy
Sixth Month: weirds events in my life
Seventh-eighth Month: In the team, out of jail and pass my exams

Other stuffs
Crushing the limits
Where do you Poke?
Finally free / Epiphany
Ten years with Pokerstrategy

Time management


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Results


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Let's grind the 3$ :f_cool:


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

Crushing the limits

1$

3$


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

First Month: let's start

Time management

I've spent a lot of time learning the strategies at first. I played a bit more at the end of the month:
In total, I've spent roughly 40% playing _smile: and 60% studying :pcuser:
the reason is simple: I'm not looking to do volume at the time, I'm looking to improve, understand the dynamic of the game and accumulating knowledge/experience.

The 6 hours of hand reviews were a real pain in the :censored: for me, but I must admit, this is where I improved the most.
reviewing my hands makes me consolidate a lot of things: ranges, value, thin value, speed of decision, odds understanding on the fly etc...

The little tool of poker tracker for tagging hand is very useful. for the next month, I'll review every hand that I marked at the end of the day. I think this is a good routine to do. There are some hands that I want to ask the community about in the forum, but I'm not sure at the moment how I will proceed. I guess I will let some days pass before posting the hands, maybe I'll be able to understand the different situations myself :f_ugly:

I don't have any routine yet about the videos. The coachings are very helpful. I'll try to attend most of them or watch the recordings.

There is a lot of charts to learn and understand. I was not looking to blindly applying the charts, I wanted to understand them. I think this is the key to progress. Yes, I've spent more than 12 hours looking at charts :truestory:
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Results

What an adventure :happy:

I use to multi-table 10-12 tables in micros, but this is so much different. I've only played one table. (ok ok, I've tried two tables ONCE :f_mad:).

This is super turbo, every chip count. There are values everywhere. 500chips in super turbo are worth 3 times more $ than chips in a 1500chips regular tournament 8-o

The first big part of my journey was pre flop. So many charts. :fouet:
Then comes the post flop strategy. At the beginning, I was contibetting to loose and not protecting enough. I did make the necessary adjustments, but there is still work to be done.

My red line (chips won without showdown) is still a mystery to me. I'm not CB too lose (anymore), I don't bluff, I don't fold every bet... :|
Maybe the population at those limits are so loose that they fold less.. I don't know. I can't wait to have my hands reviews, maybe an answer will come out.
Edit: Coffeeyay says that the redline doesn't mean anything.. so I deleted it.

I had such a wrong idea about super turbo. I was thinking "pfff, mostly push or fold".

I've never been so wrong :yaoming:

95 hands were tagged "bad hand" after review this month, for -2871chips. Mostly situations where I lose, but also situations where I won without getting enough value. I analyzed every single one of them.

282 tournaments in, (yeah only 283 tournaments) and I learned so much.
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Next month
My volume should increase without decreasing my studying time. I make quicker decisions and I'm sure it will influence my tournaments/hour.

I'm looking forward to making more value of good situations and less loss from losing/complicated situations.

Maybe level up? In any case, my main objective is to improve my game, not my $ :thinking:

See you next month!

:sfishg: Tumlex


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ThisGuido
Joined: 02.10.2015

good luck! :f_thumbsup:


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Rhodriguez
Joined: 01.10.2006

Wow I'm impressed. Looks so neat to punch in all the activities - and I'm a little bit jealous. Tried it once but it didn't stick. Does this really help you? Is it a tool to stay focused longer on one task and challenge yourself to slowly increase the duration of one single session (or maybe you are the opposite of me and it helps you not to overrun)? Do you do anything with this data? Yes you wrote My volume should increase without decreasing my studying time but for that you could write and schedule or a repeating to-do-list? Just curious.

Keep the good work going and a successful June!


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Congratulations, you are on a right road to become amazing player.
Reading your 1st post and time management + you following through with HH analysis tells me that you are on the right road to crush.

Will follow the blog and expect you to move up very soon stakes.

All the best!


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

Originally posted by ThisGuido
good luck! :f_thumbsup:
Thank you :badteeth:

Originally posted by Rhodriguez
Wow, I'm impressed. Looks so neat to punch in all the activities - and I'm a little bit jealous. Tried it once but it didn't stick. Does this really help you? Is it a tool to stay focused longer on one task and challenge yourself to slowly increase the duration of one single session (or maybe you are the opposite of me and it helps you not to overrun)? Do you do anything with this data? Yes you wrote My volume should increase without decreasing my studying time but for that, you could write and schedule or a repeating to-do-list? Just curious.

Keep the good work going and a successful June!

The main reason is that I'm kind a recovering workaholic :rage:
It is a bit scary for me to work work work and realize that 2 days have passed without seeing anyone.
I also track other activities (Netflix, Social life, non poker work etc...) to make sure to have a balanced life :f_pleased:
Regarding the duration of sessions, I usually grind 1h followed by 10 minutes break. After the break, I try to test my mood :f_ugly: and if I feel that I should watch a strategy video or review hands immediately, I do that. Then my day continues by 60 minutes / 10 minutes.

I don't do special stuff with those datas. I have some main goals like " not playing more than 60% to increase my abilities".

Thanks for your encouragements :f_drink:

Originally posted by IvicaIliev77
Congratulations, you are on a right road to become amazing player.
Reading your 1st post and time management + you following through with HH analysis tells me that you are on the right road to crush.

Will follow the blog and expect you to move up very soon stakes.

All the best!

Thank you very much, I'll keep the good work _thumbsup:


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YakuDzen
Joined: 05.03.2009

Hi, Tumlex!
Just read you blog and filling very motivated!
I think hard work reviewing hand and polishing the strategy will pay up for sure.

Looking forward to read about you results at the end of the month!
Good Luck at the Tables!!!

PS. Now thinking about starting a blog myself =)


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krugger3000
Joined: 07.04.2017

I think you should probably Cbet way more ;)

What stakes do you play?


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

Originally posted by YakuDzen
Hi, Tumlex!
Just read you blog and filling very motivated!
I think hard work reviewing hand and polishing the strategy will pay up for sure.

Looking forward to read about you results at the end of the month!
Good Luck at the Tables!!!

PS. Now thinking about starting a blog myself =)

Thank you! (Your blog is awesome :f_pleased: )

Originally posted by krugger3000
I think you should probably Cbet way more ;)

What stakes do you play?

What makes you think I should Cbet more? :f_rolleyes:

I play the 3$


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Artiom81
Joined: 04.07.2015

Great job,
really enjoyed reading it.
Gl.


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Xanham
Joined: 24.02.2009

Hey, good work, you're on the right track!

What do you do for a living? I imagine it's hard to live off poker in Switzerland :)

When I first started Spins, I was also surprised how much actual poker you can play with shallow stacks. Being in HU so often really improved my game in general.


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

Originally posted by Artiom81
Great job,
really enjoyed reading it.
Gl.

Thanks :) I'm glad you enjoyed it :f_biggrin:

Originally posted by Xanham
Hey, good work, you're on the right track!

What do you do for a living? I imagine it's hard to live off poker in Switzerland :)

When I first started Spins, I was also surprised how much actual poker you can play with shallow stacks. Being in HU so often really improved my game in general.

Thank you!

If you want to live off poker in Switzerland you have to make a lot of money online or go to the casino.

Unfortunately, the lowest game is 10-10 CHF NL1000 CHF. You can get a lot of money there, but this is only open at night... So bye bye social life :transpire:

I was an independent insurance consultant and now I'm a hypnotherapist/Student.


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

Second Month: move up to 3$

Time management

I've spent a lot of time in the hands analysis thread at the beginning of the month. That was really time-consuming 8-o
It was great to propose my idea, but it felt that I could improve more by watching some strategic videos instead.
I'm not ready to fully analyze the plays of others and new strategic topics will help me.

During the analysis parts of videos, I try to answer myself when a situation occurs. This way the "learning value" of a hand analysis is the same as a hand in a forum thread, without the big time consumption and with an immediate professional response from the coach :f_thumbsup:

I'll probably jump in the hands section from time to time. I never posted myself :f_mad:
This is an objective for this month. This way I'll probably respond to some hands before posting mine :f_grin:

A new routine for hands review as started for me. I posted it in YakuDzen blog (private for SpinLegend Members)

Ideally we should be able to go straight to the next hand, or next tournament. But sometimes, a hand get stuck in your head. This is why when it appends, I finish the tournament and review the specific hand. This is like purging my mind. I got this idea after reading a news article on pokerstrategy, saying that we should review our hand history at the end of the day. This way, we can go do something else after, without thinking about all those hands.

Those micro breaks allow me to refocus and to not stack strange hands in my mind :f_ugly:

So I did that :f_pleased:, and at the end of every day, I review my tagged hands. I guess I should also post hands that I'm not sure in the forum at the end of the day :f_rolleyes:

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Results

I've moved up to 3$ :sfishg:

The first 218 tournaments are in 1$, I was really EV oriented at the time! which was great! But I'll talk about that in a minute :sifflote:

I ended the 1$ limit peacefully, as you can see in the Crushing the limit post above. I made some logistical/psychological mistake though :fouet:

The 500 tournaments mark was approaching, some new player on the SpinLegend Silver team was crushing 500 Tournament in 2 days :ayfkm:, my off day was approaching... So was a stupid Idea!

Let's multitable to finish the 500 spins quicker!
What a bad idea...
I wasn't enough focused, I made some stupids mistakes.

Lesson learned :sifflote:
My 95 chips EV for 1$ is great, I'm proud of it, but it could have been better.

A daily routine began to emerge:

  • A bit of forum
  • Strategic video
  • Small break
  • Grind
    (repeat as much Grind/small break as possible
  • Hands review
  • Forum

This way I can start my mind with some news, grab/enforce strategic concept, grind and finally purge my mind of strange hands by reviewing them :megusta:

116 hands were tagged "bad hand" after review this month, for -6810chips.
37 hands where I could have get more value
79 hands where I have lost more than I should

Since I implement more move in my game, I took some wrong decisions.

I've started to steal pot at the right time and get more value out of strong hands.

So of course, sometimes my steal where wrong :ayfkm:, and sometimes I was too greedy with my value bets :facepalm:

My start in 3$ was very swingy :why:
A lot of cooler and stupid situation. I was so frustrated to do the right play and lose a ton of EV! Yes, I know that I should get the maximum EV of every situation, but I was so obsessed with that... An all-in pre flop with KK vs AA was nothing to me when I wasn't focusing on chipsEV. But know, I was so pissed!!!

I used to think: If your EV is correct, you're correct.
My new mindset for the next month is: make the most profitable decision at every moment, the EV is just collateral.

I learned a lot! Enough to know how much I still have to learn :challenge:
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Next month

I'll have to do some sort of internship for my studies. 11 days 24/7 with children in a handicap situation. I'll be on guard 24/7, so I won't be able to play during those days :|
I can't afford to be interrupted during a tournament. So I'll focus on watching videos at the end of the day.

My objectives:

  • Be more steady in my routines
  • Post some hands in the forum
  • Be oriented on doing the best play
  • Not be affected when I made the right play with an unfortunate EV
  • whip YakuDzen if he looks too much at his graph

See you next month!

:sfishg: Tumlex

P.S overall graph/time management on the first post updated + graph by limit added on the second post


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YakuDzen
Joined: 05.03.2009

Tumlex,
Great Graph and stats!!!
(If i can't look at mine, i look at graphs and stats of others :f_p:)
Great work last month!!! Keep Crushing!!!

I look at time management report (which is awesome by the way) and I think i must spent more time on videos! Thanks!

And Thanks for the program!
I realise just now that it was developed by professional psychiatrist!!! :f_ugly:

I used to think: If your EV is correct, you're correct.
My new mindset for the next month is: make the most profitable decision at every moment, the EV is just collateral.

Make a most profitable decision and make the most +EV decision isn't it the same thing?


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

Thank you for your encouragements :f_biggrin:

Originally posted by YakuDzen

I used to think: If your EV is correct, you're correct.
My new mindset for the next month is: make the most profitable decision at every moment, the EV is just collateral.

Make a most profitable decision and make the most +EV decision isn't it the same thing?

This is just a mind trick. When I push or make a correct move and I see that I was behind, I'm not happy with my play :f_mad:
But I should! I've done the right play, at the right time! This is just some variance, I was in the thin part of the range of villain where I was behind.

I want to be happy with my right plays. Focusing on EV alone doesn't (always) make my happy with my right plays :f_ugly:

This is not because I don't look at my graph that I don't see it in my mind xD

I don't only want to not look at my graph, I want to not think about it at all. This is a distraction.
When I think about the EV of the last decision, I don't think about the next hand.

With my background (poker/life/job), I know that I tend to focus on math and the psychology/mental state of the villain, less on mine. So I'm very careful with that.

But of course, I try to get the most EV of every situation. I put it differently in my mind. Something like "get the most value of every hand". Because EV is directly correlated to the graph for me, and I want to remove this distraction.

I hope That I answered your question :f_biggrin:


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Xanham
Joined: 24.02.2009

What software do you use for time tracking (and the nice graphics)? I've been looking for a good one for a while. I want ease of use and little overhead when using it (complex setup / configuration is not a problem).


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

https://www.hoursforteams.com

It's 80$/year

I also use it to track sport etc..

Easy to use and you even get an IOS app.

There is a month free trial if you want ;)


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YakuDzen
Joined: 05.03.2009

Originally posted by Tumlex
This is just a mind trick. When I push or make a correct move and I see that I was behind, I'm not happy with my play :f_mad:
But I should! I've done the right play, at the right time! This is just some variance, I was in the thin part of the range of vilain where I was behind.

I want to be happy with my right plays. Focusing on EV alone doesn't (always) make my happy with my right plays :f_ugly:

This is not because I don't look at my graph that I dont see it in my mind xD

I don't only want to not look at my graph, I want to not think about it at all. This is a distraction.
When I think about the EV of the last decision, I don't think about the next hand.

With my background (poker/life/job), I know that I tend to focus on math and the psychology/mental state of the vilain, less on mine. So I'm very careful with that.

But of course, I try to get the most EV of every situation. I put it differently in my mind. Something like "get the most value of every hand". Because EV is directly correlated to the graph for me, and I want to remove this distraction.

I hope That I answered your question :f_biggrin:

I think I get it :thinking:
And the opposite. When I shove and see that it was -EV and then lucky win the spin - I feel not happy at all, becouse it negatively affect my graph. And this felling can affect next spin also. That's not right also.


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Tumlex
Joined: 04.11.2007

Third Month: Internship

Time management

As I expected, this month was very challenging in terms of time management ;(
You may have read on my last month post that I had to do an internship to access to my medical studies.

The internship
It wasn't that hard in terms of work, but hard in terms of long hours. 15-18 hours/day in average + nights calls.

Sleeping wasn't really relaxing because, at every sound, I had to be ready to do stuff.

The crew was great though! I met some awesome people and clearly made new friends.

As for poker, I managed to watch some videos from Spin Legends at the end of the day.

I admit, one time I had to erase my time log because I fell asleep in front of the monitor xD

During the 11 days internship, I had a single 9am-9pm break. So I went home and spent some time with my lovely girlfriend, ate some fondue (this is Swiss Spin legend after all), relaxed a bit and pet my cat :f_love:
It was hard to cut the cord from the internship because it was very absorbing emotionally.

During that "day" off, I couldn't resist: I played a spin! :spade::heart::diamond::club:
To be honest, it was out of fear that somehow, I would forget everything about how to play/win :yaoming:
Mention to my girlfriend who didn't even blink at the idea that I play a bit on my 12 hours break instead of spending time with her.
This is so refreshing to have someone who supports me and doesn't "break my balls" as we say around here _thumbsup:

Playing one tournament was great and made me feel the urge to go in a leak find hunt the next day :fuckyeah:
I found a lot of them: small ones, big ones and I learned a lot.
The "bad hands" tags of poker tracker helped me a lot to make a list of them.

The internship ended well and I clearly didn't expect a spotless review from my chief.

She ended it by saying "don't change". I was very proud and confused (but very proud I admit _cool:).

The othershit
I didn't calculate the time required to prepare the internship and to recover from the lack of sleep.
And the lack of time for social interaction :facepalm:!
I was like on an Island during those days. I missed my friends, my girlfriend, my family.
Since I had only two weeks between my two internships, I made it count.

How I managed to put more than 70 hours for this project is a mystery :f_mad:

One thing for sure, GOD I LOVE SPIN LEGEND !!!

This was so long, with so few poker in my life. I'm glad that I didn't shift from 24/7 internship to 24/7 poker though.
As a monomaniac, this was one of my fear. I keep a time log of everything. work/internship/girlfriend/socialLife/poker/keyboard/Netflix/nap and other.
A balanced life. This is what I want. But as a passionate guy, this is so easy to fell into the rabbit hole.

If you're an alcoholic, don't drink. If you're a workaholic, you can't just quit work. I'd love to let myself go, but I have to be careful.

This month helped me set a direction for what I want in terms of week-to-week schedule.
I don't want a defined schedule. I know what I want to do during my day/week, I know how much time I want to put in, and I'll just do it :challenge:
No need to create an hourly schedule; I just have to do the work that I set for myself.

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Results

216 tournament and it felt great :f_thumbsup:

I became more confident in my plays.
My value bets were more appropriate regarding the sizing. I've still a lot of work to do in that regard though.
Bluffing! Playing in micro made me forget about it. But in 3$, there is some spot where this is profitable. I'm more attentive to this and hope to make more chips on those spots in the future!

I played without the sounds of PokerStars. What a bliss :megusta:
It was much more relaxing!

This is still hard for me to not be pissed off at coolers.
I'm "fine" with bad beats because I don't look at the screen.
I should put a shortcut on my desktop with a recording of Adriia18 saying his famous "It's okay, we open another one :pokerface: that he said after every suck-out in his videos.

Weirdly, I started to cheers for one of the other players when they are all-in. It was fun at first, but then it made me stressed out when "my" player loses, so I stopped :transpire:

Ho! funny story while I think of it:
I heard a squeaky noise while I was playing a 4x multiplier. And great news! I can now add a line to my CV:

  • can win a tournament while chasing a mouse that my cat brought me alive in the house :f_thumbsup:

I started to adapt a little, and carefully, in situations of deep stack vs tight short stack players.
Losing money by following blindly the charts wasn't fun. I know those are made for the general population and I don't deviate from them generally.
But versus a villain with 8 vpip and less than 15bb, I now adapt :f_cool:

Another spot where I should stay calm is when the blinds are very low (something like less than 7bb for the three players).
This is very rare, but this pisses me off so much!!! :rage:

And finally, let’s just say for the record that some chest arrived to pokerstars. I won’t comment on it.. :pcuser::facepalm:
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Next month

16 days. 16 days straight starting tomorrow with 11 hours of break.
I'm gonna take it like a champ (I hope :|)
After that, I should be able to go back to a "normal" life.

My objectives are pretty much the same as the ones from last month since there aren't fully and strongly implemented yet.

See you next month!

:sfishg: Tumlex

P.S overall graph/time management on the first post updated + graph by limit added on the second post.


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