TPGK on wet board as PFR

Hi ben002

Its a terrible hand to check on the flop! You're in position and have TP with a reasonable kicker.
It is a mandatory c bet there. Your opponent has to pay to draw. You have to deny him his equity.
Then call turn (when he bets) or bet turn when he checks..
Fold river (when he bets) or check back when he checks

I do agree.
Betting on the flop always here , too many draws to get value from.
Bet twice check back river unless you improve is most likely goin to be the optimal line here.
As played a fold is viable.

As played, folding river 100%. 40vpip player has too many straights/flushes here, any 5, 9T, random 2pairs - without reads folding here is definitely the play IMO and if you multitable and get into the habit of calling here it's a super leak. Definitely betting flop on larger side, turn can be smaller and mostly checking back river, 2 streets seems reasonable -- folding to any resistance though readless. You beat high vpip players at micros by value betting them to death with range advantage and knowing when to fold (generally the minraise on the turn is nutted.)

I think checking back flop is totally fine vs more reasonable players who may be more inclined to look you up with any pair/A high on turn or river, against some player types even checking back turn to get a single bet on the river vs a stubborn pocket pair is fine.. Against this dude.. bet all day IMO.

off topic: karmie here is I think a perfect example of somebody who just joined pokerstrategy.com with more than the 3 weeks of poker miles in his pocket than his join date suggests ♦

(or a genius)

Hm. This is definitely no spot to check the flop. There are flush and straight draws, your opponent might have a lot of outs. While there are very few combos that beat you otf, there are a lot of hands that might overtake you. You WILL them fold or pay the price. Try that game (check) with a stronger hand on a drier board.

As played: you have to fold the river. The flush and some straights arrive, perhaps some 2pairs (and the set obv.).

Yea I would definitely bet the flop. The line DecMate suggested sounds good imo. Bet twice and maybe plan to check behind OTR. However villain looks quite loose and as he didn't 3bet pre we might be able to take 3 streets of value. The sample size is a bit low for WTSD but if that is high and river card would seem safe I would consider betting.

As played I do think that too many hands got there and folding seems ok.

And if villain called cbet the flop, turn always cbet with top pair and medium kicker? Lot of Qx combos beat. KQ or slow played AQ and Q8s. So turn cbet again or check/call?

There are lots of weaker hands and draws that can call again. And you don't want to give free cards here. This is BTN vs BB and you opened to 2.5x so his range should be wide. And when you bet the turn, you can quite often check behind OTR if you feel like it.

I would say your top pair on these positions in single raised pot is worth 2 streets. So by checking the turn you would miss that value and let villain realize his equity for free. And also OTR villain can just bomb it and you don't know whether it is because he has a strong hand or is he just bluffing you because you checked the turn.

Originally posted by la55i
The line DecMate suggested sounds good imo.

What exactly is the difference between my line then DecMate's line???? ♦

Heh, looks quite similar to me I probably misread something the first time