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That would be a small sample, though. It's possible that you just were in a higher than usual amount of situations that may have called for such a line, or that were simply tough to figure out.

But I had used Leaktracker in similar situations during my cash grinding days many years ago. I guess it can help giving some ideas were things could be going wrong. Not that I'm the kind of person to ask for Hold'em advice, especially Hold'em cash...

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Oh yeah — and I will be very, very careful playing vs players with small stacks. If they play a hand, the almost always hold a pocket pair that either a) hits a set or b) holds vs my overcards. Oh yeah, and they never fold them either...

I used to like playing against shorties, they allowed me to play more like in the late phases of SNGs or tournaments, which would largely trivialize all that postflop stuff. Then again, cash games on 888 may be an entirely different ballgame... and not one I ever really liked to play.

Originally posted by Harrier88
I used to like playing against shorties, they allowed me to play more like in the late phases of SNGs or tournaments, which would largely trivialize all that postflop stuff. Then again, cash games on 888 may be an entirely different ballgame... and not one I ever really liked to play.

Yeah, a lot of times I will just put them all-in pre. I'll also shove post-flop against maniacs if I think I'm far enough ahead of their range (and sometimes I wrong, which gives us the flat red line and steeply descending blue line)

So after supper I sat down to play another 500 hands keeping in mind what my review had told me.
 I started by being far more selective pre-flop
 I also CBet more, and CBet more turns
 Finally, I folded a lot of rivers I might have called before.

Although I would like to say that my review made a huge difference, it was the following two hands — against the same player that actually did the deed.

Hand #1
which one of us is the maniac?
Note SB has been playing 63/36 and after only 12 hands I have a note that says, "raises OESD post-flop"
Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $6.94
Hero (BB): $5.46
UTG: $5.23
CO: $1.69
BTN: $1.67

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has T♦:9♠:

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.10, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.20, 2 players) J♦:9♣:5♣:
SB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, SB raises to $0.95, Hero raises to $5.36 and is all-in, SB calls $4.41

Turn: ($10.92, 2 players) 2♥:

River: ($10.92, 2 players) 7♥:

SB shows Q♥:T♣: (High Card, Queen)
(Pre 72%, Flop 44%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows T♦:9♠: (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 28%, Flop 56%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins $10.28
Rake paid $0.64

Fortunately, his OESD didn't complete, and following that hand every time he showed up on the table, he threw a tomato at me and called me a donkey.

I think he might have been a bit tilted...
Then this:

Hand #2:
Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $12.47
SB: $3.35
BB: $11.39
UTG: $2.00
MP: $2.14
CO: $6.36

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K♥:A♦:

fold, fold, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, BB calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.62, 3 players) 5♠:A♥:7♦:
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40, fold

Turn: ($1.42, 2 players) 8♦:
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.42, 2 players) K♣:
BB bets $10.79 and is all-in, Hero calls $10.79

Hero shows K♥:A♦: (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 69%, Flop 80%, Turn 7%)
BB shows 8♠:A♠: (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
(Pre 31%, Flop 20%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins $22.00
Rake paid $1.00

I didn't see him after that

I managed to recover much of what I had lost earlier, but not quite back to B-E
This is the entire day...

Originally posted by Harrier88
Wow, looks like all the trolls are on a "solidarity downswing" right now...

It can only get better, I suppose. For all of us.

Indeed! Troll-solidarity-downswings?

Well if we're going to be on a swing, there will be an up [1]

[1] or so we've all been conditioned to believe

I played no tournaments (yet), but up a BI on PLO8 and half of one at NLHE — plus a rather astonishing Hand-of-the-Day reward of $5.00 — $0.50 is typical and $1 feels huge. The highest I've had is $10, but they apparently go up to $1000.

Because I've tightened up so much pre-flop, I'm playing better hands post-flop, and as a result, I'm able to CBet legitimately (as opposed to bluff CBetting) on both the turn and river. So my giraffe for today looks a lot better (abbreviated session today though, due to eye doctor and shopping etc)
My WTSD has dropped from 44 to 32 (which is still high apparently) and my WSD has risen from 47 to 77 << holy cow!
The giraffe:

Today's Fun Hand:
Pacific Poker - $0.05 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha Hi/Lo - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: $5.81
MP: $4.63
MP+1: $2.83
MP+2: $5.29
CO: $3.07
BTN: $1.19
SB: $1.99
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $2.00

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 2♥:4♦:2♣:3♣:

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to $0.22, CO calls $0.22, BTN calls $0.22, SB calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.17, UTG+1 calls $0.17

Flop: ($1.32, 6 players) 3♠:A♣:4♣:
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP+2 bets $0.66, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.66, UTG+1 calls $0.66

Turn: ($3.30, 3 players) 3♥:
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP+2 bets $1.65, Hero calls $1.65, UTG+1 calls $1.65

River: ($8.25, 3 players) 5♥:
Hero bets $2.47 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $2.47, fold

UTG+1 shows 2♠:K♣:8♥:3♦: (High: Straight, Five High, Low: 5432A)
(Pre 47%, Flop 45%, Turn 48%)
Hero shows 2♥:4♦:2♣:3♣: (High: Full House, Threes full of Fours, Low: 5432A)
(Pre 53%, Flop 55%, Turn 52%)
Hero wins $6.22
Rake paid $0.77
Hero wins $3.10
UTG+1 wins $3.10

I had to check to see why I got 3/4 of the pot, since I thought that we both had the same    hi-hand and same lo-hand
Pacific Poker - $0.05 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha Hi/Lo - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: $1.44
MP: $4.47
MP+1: $5.74
Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $2.90
SB: $5.00
BB: $6.95
UTG: $6.11

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♠:4♠:K♠:T♥:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05, fold, SB raises to $0.20, fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) A♣:K♣:7♥:
SB bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1.80, SB raises to $4.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.00 and is all-in

Turn: ($10.05, 2 players) 3♠:

River: ($10.05, 2 players) 2♠:

Hero shows A♠:4♠:K♠:T♥: (High: Two Pair, Aces and Kings, Low: 7432A) <<< this is why: I won the low hand by 1 pip

SB shows 2♦:5♣:K♥:A♦: (High: Two Pair, Aces and Kings, Low: 7532A)

SB wins $2.37
Rake paid $0.59
Hero wins $2.36
Hero wins $4.73

NL 5 still struggling, but not quite as bad.

Miscellaneous amounts were mostly Hand-of-the-Day rewards, but I'm keeping track of every time I win with the stated hand — and I'm convinced I'm not getting credit for them all.

Trying to follow up with 888 support, but they have the amazing ability to misunderstand what I'm asking.

Oh Well...

I'll hold off posting the giraffe until the upswing actually shows.

rather scary turn card
This is the "Big Shot $1" — I carried on to cash this.
This makes the first time I cashed a non-freeroll NLHE tournament on 888[1]
Still playing it, so I'll post the end result a bit later

Pacific Poker - 1750/3500 Ante 425 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 68,759
BB: 146,334
UTG: 49,848
UTG+1: 24,904
Hero (MP): 53,965
MP+1: 80,848
MP+2: 44,320
CO: 98,077
BTN: 60,046

9 players post ante of 425, SB posts SB 1,750, BB posts BB 3,500

Pre Flop: (pot: 9,075) Hero has Q♥:Q♣:

UTG calls 3,500, fold, Hero raises to 14,000, fold, fold, CO raises to 97,652 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 39,540 and is all-in

Flop: (119,655, 2 players) 3♦:J♠:5♦:

Turn: (119,655, 2 players) 8♦:

River: (119,655, 2 players) 5♠:

Hero shows Q♥:Q♣: (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)
(Pre 50%, Flop 48%, Turn 40%)
CO shows Q♦:Q♠: (Two Pair, Queens and Fives)
(Pre 50%, Flop 52%, Turn 60%)
CO wins 59,827
Hero wins 59,828

[1] That I can remember

A couple of rungs up the ladder for $3.05

I also accidentally joined the NL 10 Snap table instead of the NL 5 and promptly won a hand with hand-of-the-day, so naturally I left.
No point in being an idiot about it

to play with a full stack
At least it seems that way...

In NL games, a short stack means you basically play push fold, but in pot-limit games, you don't have the fold equity.
Here, I called the turn simply because I'm getting 20:1 and I'm holding the nut flush draw with 2 outs to the worst boat.

Pacific Poker - $0.05 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha Hi/Lo - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): $5.05
UTG+1: $6.76
MP: $1.66
CO: $2.45
BTN: $1.14
SB: $6.66
BB: $1.29

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 6♥:2♣:A♥:2♦:

Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.38, Hero calls $0.26

Flop: ($0.78, 2 players) 9♥:7♥:K♣:
BB bets $0.78, Hero calls $0.78

Turn: ($2.34, 2 players) K♠:
BB bets $0.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.13

River: ($2.60, 2 players) 3♦:

Hero shows 6♥:2♣:A♥:2♦: (Two Pair, Kings and Twos)
(Pre 50%, Flop 53%, Turn 60%)
BB shows A♦:6♦:T♥:J♥: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 50%, Flop 47%, Turn 40%)
Hero wins $2.45
Rake paid $0.15

Who would have thought?

There is a daily freeroll satellite that pays 37 27.50 tickets
Freeroll satellites are an absolute gong show, but today my flips held, and I managed to shove in the correct ICM spots, and fold when necessary.[1]

The target tournament runs in an hour. That tournament pays 10 $1,050 tickets, and merely cashing in that one would complete my challenge.

[1] Well except for this hand: https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3300220#post3300220 , which I think should have been a fold.

Details — summary at https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3300707#post3300707

By Category:
   Start:    675.88 
 Last Wk:    775.99 
 This Wk:    797.14 
     +/-:     21.15 
     Trn:      3.05 
    PLO8:      9.16 
    NLHE:      3.29 
    Misc:      5.00 
    Goal:  3,500.00 
 To Date:    121.26 
   To Go:  3,378.74 

Slowly coming back from the disaster of a few weeks ago

    Category    Won   Max   Min 
         F/R   0.65  0.25  0.20 
        NLHE   3.29  1.78  1.51 
        PLO8   9.16  5.41  0.58 
         TRN   3.05  3.05  3.05 
        Misc   5.00  5.00  5.00 
 Grand Total  21.15  5.41  0.20 

Pretty grim — lost nearly 6% of my roll that existed on Jan 31

    Category     Won    Max     Min 
         F/R   22.99  10.00    0.04 
        NLHE  -70.69   2.53  -28.02 
        PLO8  -14.82   8.42  -37.45 
         TRN    1.00   3.05   -2.20 
        Misc   11.69   5.00   -1.27 
 Grand Total  -49.83  10.00  -37.45 

And to make things worse, I haven't won a freeroll since the 23rd.

Here is the story for this month for the BR challenge:
  Start  Last Mo  This Mo     +/-      Goal  To Date     To Go 
 675.88   846.97   797.14  -49.83  3,500.00   121.26  3,378.74 

so you call

BB in this hand is playing 75/40 with about 10 3BEt

Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.52
SB: $3.77
BB: $7.95
Hero (UTG): $5.00
MP: $2.59
CO: $5.07

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q♦:9♦:

Hero raises to $0.12, MP calls $0.12, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.48, Hero calls $0.36, MP calls $0.36

Flop: ($1.46, 3 players) T♥:4♠:4♣:
BB bets $0.80, Hero raises to $3.20, MP calls $2.11 and is all-in, fold Ah what the heck, just put him all-in

Turn: ($6.48, 2 players) 3♠:

River: ($6.48, 2 players) Q♠:

Muy buenas. Esa es la actitud!!!😀

with only 5 BB left, not much else to do

Pacific Poker - 300/600 Ante 60 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 1,651
MP+1: 7,210
Hero (CO): 3,204
BTN: 12,072
SB: 6,122
BB: 5,599
UTG: 2,049
UTG+1: 1,824

8 players post ante of 60, SB posts SB 300, BB posts BB 600

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,380) Hero has 7♦:7♣:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3,144 and is all-in, BTN calls 3,144, fold, fold

Flop: (7,668, 2 players) 7♥:6♠:5♦:

Turn: (7,668, 2 players) J♥:

River: (7,668, 2 players) 9♠:

Hero shows 7♦:7♣: (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 93%, Turn 98%)
BTN shows 6♦:6♥: (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 7%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins 7,668

I joined a $2/$5 table instead of a $0.02/$0.05 table
I show my stack in BB, so I didn't notice immediately, and had folded the blinds, then this hand on the button...

Pacific Poker - $5 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $720.75
BB: $501.82
CO: $622.45
Hero (BTN): $500.00

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $5.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $7.00) Hero has K♥ T♣

CO raises to $12.50, Hero calls $12.50, fold, BB calls $7.50

Flop: ($39.50, 3 players) J♥ 7♣ A♦
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $19.75, fold, fold <<< at this point I pretty much have to fold if I get raised, but I do have equity of sorts, so what the heck

Hero wins $37.53
Rake paid $1.97

a reasonable week, and good to be back over $800 again

    Category    Won    Max    Min 
         F/R  10.67   4.00   0.04 
        NLHE  10.53  18.03  -7.47 
        PLO8   0.48   3.75  -5.68 
         TRN  -5.50  -5.50  -5.50 
 Grand Total  16.18  18.03  -7.47 

I bought into a $5.50 PLO8 tournament, and was doing quite well until I overplayed Aces to bust out unnecessarily.

so it goes...

$10,000[1] prize pool
I had won a few small pots, to even last this long, and I'm down to 5.6 BB here.
There are about 600 left to go to the bubble, so I figured I just had to go for it — raising is no option, and folding certainly isn't.

There is also a few limpers in the pot, and it may be possible to isolate worse.
Pacific Poker - 300/600 Ante 60 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 1,088
BB: 10,694
UTG: 5,109
UTG+1: 7,942
MP: 23,652
MP+1: 6,014
MP+2: 10,347
Hero (CO): 3,544
BTN: 3,832

9 players post ante of 60, SB posts SB 300, BB posts BB 600

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,440) Hero has A♦:K♦:

fold, fold, MP calls 600, MP+1 calls 600, fold, Hero raises to 3,484 and is all-in, BTN raises to 3,772 and is all-in, fold, fold, MP calls 3,172, MP+1 raises to 5,954 and is all-in, MP calls 2,182

Flop: (20,604, 4 players) A♣:3♠:9♠:

Turn: (20,604, 4 players) 5♣:

River: (20,604, 4 players) 4♦:

MP shows 7♦:8♦: (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [15,376]: (Pre 29%, Flop 7%, Turn 10%)
Side Pot#1 [864]: (Pre 33%, Flop 7%, Turn 10%)
Side Pot#2 [4,364]: (Pre 44%, Flop 7%, Turn 10%)

MP+1 shows K♥:9♣: (One Pair, Nines)

Main Pot [15,376]: (Pre 14%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [864]: (Pre 26%, Flop 17%, Turn 10%)
Side Pot#2 [4,364]: (Pre 56%, Flop 93%, Turn 90%)

Hero shows A♦:K♦: (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [15,376]: (Pre 35%, Flop 72%, Turn 78%)

BTN shows A♥:J♣: (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [15,376]: (Pre 22%, Flop 12%, Turn 8%)
Side Pot#1 [864]: (Pre 41%, Flop 76%, Turn 80%)

Hero wins 15,376
BTN wins 864
MP+1 wins 4,364

[1] $550 up top, $1 min-cash
by the time I finished posting this, I'm in the money — Yay!

only half the pot but recovered all my losses so far and left me up a dime or so

Pacific Poker - $0.05 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha Hi/Lo - 9 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: $8.36

MP: $3.17

Hero (MP+1): $5.00

MP+2: $11.86

CO: $4.73

BTN: $3.02

SB: $1.11

BB: $3.09

UTG: $2.84

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 4♦:K♣:A♦:J♠:

fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05, MP+2 raises to $0.15, fold, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.75, MP+2 calls $0.65, fold, SB calls $0.65

Flop: ($3.35, 4 players) K♥:2♣:7♣:

SB checks, BB bets $2.29 and is all-in, Hero raises to $4.20 and is all-in, MP+2 raises to $11.06 and is all-in, SB calls $0.31 and is all-in

Turn: ($14.35, 4 players) 6♣:

River: ($14.35, 4 players) J♣:

Hero shows 4♦:K♣:A♦:J♠: (High: Two Pair, Kings and Jacks, Low: 7642A)

Main Pot [$4.59]: (Pre 26%, Flop 21%, Turn 13%)

Side Pot#1 [$5.94]: (Pre 28%, Flop 22%, Turn 13%)

Side Pot#2 [$3.82]: (Pre 47%, Flop 40%, Turn 29%)

MP+2 shows K♦:Q♦:3♣:A♠: (High: One Pair, Kings, Low: 7632A)

Main Pot [$4.59]: (Pre 30%, Flop 41%, Turn 51%)

Side Pot#1 [$5.94]: (Pre 32%, Flop 41%, Turn 55%)

Side Pot#2 [$3.82]: (Pre 53%, Flop 60%, Turn 71%)

SB shows 5♦:9♥:6♥:4♣: (High: One Pair, Sixes, Low: 76542)

Main Pot [$4.59]: (Pre 19%, Flop 9%, Turn 19%)

BB shows 5♥:A♥:7♥:A♣: (High: One Pair, Aces, Low: 7652A)

Main Pot [$4.59]: (Pre 26%, Flop 30%, Turn 17%)

Side Pot#1 [$5.94]: (Pre 40%, Flop 37%, Turn 31%)

Hero wins $2.16

Rake paid $0.84

MP+2 wins $2.16

Hero wins $2.80

MP+2 wins $2.80

Hero wins $1.80

MP+2 wins $1.79