NL4 6max 100814 - slow playing aces

Originally posted by faronel
I think if I call villain's raise on turn, I am as well calling down the river (given the stacks), regardless the card.

That doesn't make sense. You want your call to be profitable and this is it. There is no room for 'calling river given the stack sizes after I called the turn' in the equation 'is it a profitable call river?'.

As played I would call the turn, expecting any ace or heart to be good most of the time, and because we have great pot odds. A 7 is good very often as well imo, though it will give him quads quite a lot, and it will be tough to get value from 55/33 or a flush. But you have great pot odds + implied odds so the call is good turn.

River, given the profile, your aces are in a bad spot, you're beaten by the straight flush, 7x, 33 that could have called flop as well as any flush. Your aces are actually a bluff catcher on the turn; you call hoping to improve, because you don't beat his value range, only some hypothetical bluff and it's not the kind of guy that will do that as a default so I just fold river.

Flop is ok leading, the size is ok.

Turn you need to keep betting. I'd bet 3/4) of the pot at least (you're betting for value ==> bet big. When he raises you just need to apply Baluga's theorem. Of course you're not going to fold because of the NFD, but I think it's better to shove to maximise your EV. Calling down there when oppo might already have trips or a set or a made flush doesn't really looks that good imho and given stack size you can happily broke the turn.

shove to maximize EV against what? baluga says that you should "reconsider your hand strength", which is not much right?

as played sucks that the board is paired, so you might actually be facing reversed implieds, though i find it hard to fold as well.
river is an easy fold.

UTG is a fish, he also limped on UTG- I don't think he's going anywhere preflop, why you don't want to build a pot vs this guy in this spot with AA?