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[Closed] KK faced with flushing flop

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[tg]Position:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;UTG+2:///////;[/tg]
0.05/0.10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K♣, K♠
UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, 6 folds, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero caps, BB (All-In), UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (11.60 SB) 8♦, 7♦, J♦ (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Should this have been a raise? Faced with a very possible opposing flush .
Turn: (6.80 BB) J♠ (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.80 BB) 2♥ (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.80 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
BB shows [ Jc, Ah ] three of a kind, Jacks
Hero shows [ Kc, Ks ] two pairs, Kings and Jacks
UTG+1 shows [ 8s, Th ] two pairs, Jacks and Eights
Hero wins $0.53 USD with two pairs, Kings and Jacks.
BB wins $0.45 USD with three of a kind, Jacks.


7 replies

raise flop to get value of drawing hands


Yep, rise the flop for sure.
On this flop he can donk with top pair, maybe even with mid pair with an attepmt to scare you with a flush. Also he can ba on a flush or straight draw.
Actually, the probability that on a 1 color flop one of your opponents have a flush is rather low (if I recall it right, someone said that it's about 6% or so...), and in a heads-up situation you can almost ignore it (of course, if villain is showing much aggression you should switch to calldown)


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

hu it´s imo best to call the flop and raise a non :diamond: turn to let draws pay the maximum


ah, yes, standard move. call flop/raise turn. agree.
So we rise on non :diamond: turn, but what about J? Fold to 3bet?


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

shit i hoped you wouldn´t ask that ^^
i don´t really like this "raise turn/fold to 3-bet" stuff on the mico limits.
the question is if we still want to raise the turn if we are not willing to fold to a 3-bet... i tend to raise/calldown but maybe i´m influenced by the results :P


haha, ok ;)
And on the higher limits it would be "raise turn/fold to 3-bet"? If we are playing against reasonable opponent.


Originally posted by Macrobeus
haha, ok ;)
And on the higher limits it would be "raise turn/fold to 3-bet"? If we are playing against reasonable opponent.

Nope. Raise/calldown on the higher limits and raise/fold on the lower. If you don't want to fold then just calldown. The J isn't the best card.