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02.10.2012, 01:34

Hopefully I'm allowed to post this here, this is more like a semi-noob question, I'm sure MTT players with good experience in the low stakes can help me out. Mainly low stakes MTTs ~$11-22.

Assuming the villain is a reg, but readless due lack of sample, using a std 3bet size of ~2.25/2.75 IP/OOP.

So we min open from different position and villain 3bets us. From which eff stack size we can 4bet shove/call hands like J7s / A4s etc. I'm really having hard time here vs 3bets.

1. I assuming any 3bet from villain with eff stack size less than 20bb is usually the nuts/very strong value range, right?

2. How about 25bb? Enough bluff ranges?

3. How do we 4bet properly with hands like J7s and A4s for example? Is it better to 4bet/fold OR 4bet/call OR 4bet/shove when the eff. stack size is for example
a) 22.5bb
b) 25bb
c) 27.5bb


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02.10.2012, 12:40

Hi all,

No fold equity I'd assume vs a reg with less than 25bb at lowstakes MTTs between 11$-22$. Between 25 and 40 I think 4bet shoving is generally the superior line.

Basically I assume when someone puts in a quarter of their stack they're not folding. I've been proven wrong from time to time, but in that case I just note that player as an idiot.


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02.10.2012, 14:24

Hmm I thought so on the low stakes that the 3bets are very strong. On the other hand, on ~22-26bb eff stack size I tend to 3bet IP quite often vs MP's. Is this generally a good way to chip up? Of course I make sure my image is not a maniac when doing it and try to pick the right targets.


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04.10.2012, 09:39

maniac or not they still generally cant/wont 4bet this includes most decent regs. Plus if they call they are check folding to cbet majority of time.


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06.10.2012, 16:04

Originally posted by Skribbles
maniac or not they still generally cant/wont 4bet this includes most decent regs. Plus if they call they are check folding to cbet majority of time.

Welcome Skribbles!

This is exactly right!


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