NL400 river with marginal hand

For me I would need a lot more info than tough reg. Since the diamond and straight draws got there i would want to know his hand ranges, his pre and post flop play and how he views my play. if tough competent reg is all you have; as played i would check fold the river

21/26 3bet:10 WTSD:26% over 593 hands

What else do you want to know. I think its an easy check/fold after thinking about it. Meh

I'd c/f this as well. I don't really see what you want to get value from.

Originally posted by Itsnevereasy
21/26 3bet:10 WTSD:26% over 593 hands

What else do you want to know. I think its an easy check/fold after thinking about it. Meh

Like I said in my original post " i would want to know his hand ranges, his pre and post flop play stats and how I think he views my play." As played without that info I would check fold river.

If "21/26 3bet:10 WTSD:26% over 593 hands" If that is all you have on him, as played I would check fold river.

For me to play the way you did, I would need in addition to what you gave, I would need his Flop cbet and turn calling stats, as well as his river bet%, from the cutoff and his W$SD. I would adjust my flop, turn and river bets up or down based on the stats and how I think he views my play.

If " 21/26 3bet:10 WTSD:26% over 593 hands" is all the stats you use, I would have bet bigger on the flop and check folded turn and river. Also I would have raised higher preflop with or "without 21/26 3bet:10 WTSD:26% over 593 hands".

definitely checking this river, and probably check/folding unless you think he turns everything into a bluff.

yeah, it's clear c/f on the river imo. Also u could take some other turn and flop lines with this hand. I like c/c right away on the flop with it because it's MP vs CO. Very unlikely he will call 3 streets with worse and he definitely has AQ in his range.

agree with previous posters, seems like a check/fold

Originally posted by mbml
definitely checking this river, and probably check/folding unless you think he turns everything into a bluff.

I only took a glance at this but it seems like this would be a c/f even then.

I can't understand why you bet the river ? what are you trying to accomplish ? you are basically turning your hand into a bluff, if so it is a clear fold.
x/r turn might be an option if you think he is betting with weak draws/Qx/Tx. but I def don't like barreling 2 streets and c/c or c/f river, c/c is too marginal and speculative and c/f is too weak.

Thanks for the feedback guys! It really does seem like an easy check/fold on the river now ♠_cool:

Don't worry... It's never easy...

I kinda wanna bet/call, but ok as the majority rules, c/f is ok too.

what's the worst hand he's turning into bluff and why? i think AQ would beat more bluffs. also, is he bluffing without a blocker?

Originally posted by pleno1
I kinda wanna bet/call, but ok as the majority rules, c/f is ok too.

pleno and his crazy lines and his pfr higher than vpip ♦