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TheRebuz
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01.02.2014, 06:54

PokerStars - $150+$12|1000/2000 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 61,372 (VPIP: 21.59, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 90)
MP: 157,918 (VPIP: 19.47, PFR: 15.05, 3Bet Preflop: 6.55, Hands: 388)
CO: 52,705 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 40)
BTN: 6,510 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 7.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 75)
Hero (SB): 43,604
BB: 45,897 (VPIP: 25.81, PFR: 15.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 93)
UTG: 46,710 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)

7 players post ante of 200, Hero posts SB 1,000, BB posts BB 2,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 4,400) Hero has A♥ K♠

UTG raises to 4,000, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10,240, fold, UTG raises to 46,510 and is all-in, Hero calls 33,164 and is all-in

standard right?
3beting calling off>shove>call right??? in this spot or shove>3betcall>flat co he can have tough time to call off 22-99/maybe TT???


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onetwo78
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01.02.2014, 12:17

hi,

i think the 3b/c is the best in this spot from math viewpoit. I would push, if the BF would be higher, e.g. UTG and you would have double avarage stack on final two table or a significant step in the payout structure.

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Havlisak
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Joined: 18.05.2009
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01.02.2014, 14:40

I 3b/c this, but your sizing seems way too big. I go 9000-9500 with your stacksize


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TheRebuz
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01.02.2014, 15:50

Originally posted by Havlisak
I 3b/c this, but your sizing seems way too big. I go 9000-9500 with your stacksize

bb is 2k so 0.5bb doesn make difference imo

i 3bet 4,5bb inp/ 5.1bb oop (or more then 25bb deep)

btw why u 3bet/c vs shoving?


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chenny8888
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02.02.2014, 07:59

Hi all,

Originally posted by Havlisak
I 3b/c this, but your sizing seems way too big. I go 9000-9500 with your stacksize

Me too. I'm not worried about a flat here rebuz, if he wants to hood us when we have AK I'm happy playing the hand vs his range, TT type hands are the tough ones to play vs a hoodflat.

IP sizing here for me is 7800, OOP with these stacks is closer to 9000.


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02.02.2014, 13:02

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Originally posted by Havlisak
I 3b/c this, but your sizing seems way too big. I go 9000-9500 with your stacksize

Me too. I'm not worried about a flat here rebuz, if he wants to hood us when we have AK I'm happy playing the hand vs his range, TT type hands are the tough ones to play vs a hoodflat.

IP sizing here for me is 7800, OOP with these stacks is closer to 9000.

mine would be like 9040/10240 u think that is leak or?? is ok i fell more comfortable with this sizing cos imo people tend to call too much or clicking back4bet when i'm oop and i 3bet so i'm in ugly spot

so u prefer 3betning geeting in when he shoves vs just shoving? u think he has more spaz like Ax/KQ and stuf tah 3bet call is more+ ev then he fold off pockets like 55-99 when we shove and probbly shovet hem most of the time when we 3bet


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Havlisak
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03.02.2014, 12:26

I think your sizing says I have a value hand way too much, and might cause villain to fold hands like 66 or AJs/AQo some of the time.


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chenny8888
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04.02.2014, 10:23

Hi all,

I agree with Havlisak, I think those sizes make people too scared to spaz too often, and give us a bad price on our bluffs also.


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