FL .05/.10 QQ vs small suited connector

Originally posted by gnananandan
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.05/$0.1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is with Q:h, Q:c.
BU folds(All-In), Hero raises, folds, calls, folds, calls, 2 folds, BB 3-Bets, Hero caps, calls, calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.4 SB) 3:c, 6:d, 8:d (4 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, calls, 3-Bets, BB calls, Hero caps, calls, calls, BB calls.

Turn: (16.2 BB) 2:h (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, calls, raises, BB calls, Hero calls, calls.

River: (24.2 BB) J:d (4 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, folds, calls.

Final Pot: 27.2 BB.
Results follow:

Hero shows a straight, six high(5:h 4:h).
Hero shows a pair of queens(Q:h Q:c).
BB shows two pairs, jacks and twos(2:d J:h).

Hero wins with a straight, six high(5:h 4:h).

How on earth can someone call a raise from UTG with 4h5h and is it correct play by the opponent raising on flop?
Shouldnt I raise the flop?
The opponent is a good player always looking for straight and flush!
Can I call it my worse play as there was possibility of even a flush at river?

And a little help.
I use pokerstrategy hand converter to convert my hands. But when I paste it it shows all texts continously and I have to edit it again line by line.. any help for this?
Also why does is show opponent also as hero??

due to the fact that I simply cant read the hand history. (yeah its broken for some reason and I sadly can't help you with why) So i can't evaluate your hand until it gets fixed.

though I can answer this

it can be correct to call with 54s in the BB or if there is more than 3 callers to an UTG raise. It all depends on odds. To answer your question I would not call it correct to cold call with 54s to a raise and a single call . Nor would i call it correct to be the first to cold call a UTG raise with 54s.

The reason why these guys do however is because they either don't know its bad. Or they are playing poker purely for entertainment purposes. They don't play to win money. Simply either they dont know its not correct or they don't care. Thats the definition of a fish / bad player. They don't know or they don't care.

Oh thank you so much Avataren!
So it depends on the number of callers.
That player is a regular one playing good.
So with QQ I should raise on flop. On turn and river is it better to call as there was a possibilty of straight n flush??

Originally posted by gnananandan
Oh thank you so much Avataren!
So it depends on the number of callers.
That player is a regular one playing good.
So with QQ I should raise on flop. On turn and river is it better to call as there was a possibilty of straight n flush??

you should be able to find a lot of stuff about the simple math that goes with FL .. I could need some study in math too. -.-

my line which i think is perfectly acceptable would be

raise preflop call cap (or cap yourself if you are not capped out)
in the case we cap we bet cap on this flop
you bet/call turn
check call river.

given the action provided in this hand I think its correct to just call turn and river. with the action given.

ps.
can you give me the stats of that good player in this thread or pm me his name if you have it ?

I know that it feels awkward when the cards get revealed and you see yourself losing to a rubbish hand like this but on the other side you have to appreciate having those guys around since they'll sometimes catch up some big hand but most of the times they'll end up losing a lot of money by playing hands like this against a strong range. i.e. UTG-Range.

You certainly had a read that usually both players don't play reasonable and thus you capped the Flop and you'd bet the Turn and you slowed turn after his raise. That was a good decision because after you've shown you have an overpair by capping Preflop and capping the Flop, normally there is no legit worse hand he'd be raising the turn with but on the other hand you cannot fold your hand in such a big pot, especially not against guys who seem to be halfdrunk in some hands. There is no mistake you did but it was just the normal misfortune you are facing.