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NL2 FR - what to do against calling station?

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Daggystyle
Joined: 14.05.2014

iPoker - €0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 108 BB (VPIP: 6.90, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
UTG+1: 136.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 165 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 204.5 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 27 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 22)
BB: 84.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8♦ A♣

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB

Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) J♣ 4♣ 7♣
BB checks, Hero bets 5.5 BB, BB calls 5.5 BB

Turn: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 5♠
BB checks, Hero bets 13.5 BB, BB calls 13.5 BB

River: (46.5 BB, 2 players) 9♦
BB checks, Hero checks

Hero mucks 8♦ A♣ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 28%, Flop 47%, Turn 34%)
BB shows K♠ K♦ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 72%, Flop 53%, Turn 66%)
BB wins 43.5 BB

Is it right of me to build a big pot with a nut flush draw against an unknown player?

20% chance for another club and 8% for an ace and on the turn i pick up a gutshot. How is my bet sizing for this situation. Does implied odds play a big role here? Thanks for any insight.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey Daggystyle,

Preflop open is ok, although again 3bb open is fine imo.

Flop cbet is fine, although we should mainly only bet with draws if we expect to get folds some percentage of the time.

So if by the turn we felt villain was not folding that frequently after he calls flop it's fine to check turn and play our draw passively according to pot odds.

Building a pot has a small benefit, i.e we can get a bigger payout on the river - however this is just a secondary benefit. We should mainly only bet draws if we expect folds some percentaage of the time.


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Hey

My two cents here. What do you want him to fold with your bets? After your flop bet he shows interest in the pot. By him checking the lead to you I suspect he has a marginal hand/draw. I figure he would checkraise with made hands or he is slowplaying.
He could be on straight/2nd nut flush draw. I wouldn't say he's a calling station since you have no reads.
He could have AJ/KJ type of hand and suspects you're just stealing and try to push him off the pot since you could be opening very wide from the CO.
Like w34z3l says, I'd play the draw passively on the turn, hoping to hit.
If you don't hit you can X/X or fold to his bet.
If you do hit however he can suspect you're weak, not holding a club since you slowed down after your cbet & lead in to you. He might even call off a clickback raise.


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Daggystyle
Joined: 14.05.2014

Thanks both of you, i agree checking turn would be the better option. My biggest leak is feeling obligated to bet when checked to and i have a draw.

I did expect a fold from any pocket not yet a set and single pairs with no shot at the flush draw. Was expecting a fold on the turn from any overpairs or pairs. Any flush, JJ, 55, 44, 77 would have called. I don't think a single club would have called either. Was definetly expecting to take the pot on the turn.


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