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briccius
Joined: 26.06.2007

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

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$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$4.17:///////;SB (Hero)$2.23:///////;BB$2.00:///////;MP2$4.97:///////;MP3$4.50:///////;CO$1.51:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with J:s, A:s.
3 folds, BU raises to $0.05, Hero raises to $0.14, BB folds, BU calls $0.09.

Flop: ($0.3) 8:c, 4:h, 9:h (2 players)
Hero checks, BU checks.

Turn: ($0.3) J:h (2 players)
Hero bets $0.19,

BU raises to $0.38, Hero...?

Unknown villain. Check out the river spot, too.

Spoiler

Hero calls $0.19.

River: ($1.06) 6:d (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets $0.34,

Spoiler

Hero calls $0.34.

Final Pot: $1.74.
Results follow:

Hero shows a pair of jacks(J:s A:s).
BU shows a pair of queens(Q:s Q:d).

BU wins with a pair of queens(Q:s Q:d).


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

How come on turn hero bets and then it is hero again to act?


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antLrace
Joined: 13.03.2015

I dont like that 3bet preflop; but i dont know the opponent tendecies.


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GoOnCal1
Joined: 22.01.2015

Hey Briccius
Missed your posts last few days :-)
My leakbuster 6max suggest I should be 3bet more from the SB
But really who is folding for 0.9 cents more on the button


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Do you have a calling range preflop in this spot or you 3bet or fold?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think it's a call preflop. If we are playing 3bet or fold with merged range, then AJs is a 3bet, of course, but a bit bigger. Flop is good, i think and given the sizes, turn and river are good, too.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

3 bet is legit if he does not have a defence calling range. I asked him that but he doesn't answer.
Why are we x/calling the river?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
Why are we x/calling the river?

I would say just because of his sizing. Against bigger sizing, I would fold.


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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

It's interesting how come the river bet of the villain is so small.


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briccius
Joined: 26.06.2007

But really who is folding for 0.9 cents more on the button

I almost triple his open so I think it´s a normal 3bet. If continues with 100% of his opening range, then it is actually a 3b for value, I guess.

Do you have a calling range preflop in this spot or you 3bet or fold?

I haven´t worked out my preflop ranges yet, still doing it intuitively. That means that I will sometimes call, sometimes 3bet, but it´s rather random. Probably a leak, but I am going to put some ranges into equilab these days and proceed from there. Have also started to watch w34z3l´s walkthrough series.

Originally posted by nitrol
Why are we x/calling the river?

I would say just because of his sizing. Against bigger sizing, I would fold.

I only called the river because of his sizing.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

this is a default 3B for me, axs+,99+,KTs+JTs+,QTs+T9s,AJo vs 2.5x BTN open

Are we suggesting flatting is more +EV because we don't expect to get SQ alot @2NL? but on the neg side I do expect to get overcalled alot which gives us bad relative position, another neg to flatting is if villians are calling alot then means we can missout from stacking fishy aces etc that we can get stacks in easier 3B pot

Anyone playing half decent should squeeze the crap out us when we start flatting in the SB


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008

Don't play random, that's what 'they' do.
Pre is mostly a call, this keeps all villains random trash in the pot that might bluff or call down or whatever else villain feels like doing postflop and 3betting unknowns OOP is dangerous when they don't fold much.
Check/fold flop, but as played call turn/call river if bet isn't too big, like less than 3/4 it's cheap enough. Take a note.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

few people say flat... why do we think flat >EV than a 3B? For me this is mandatory 3B but maybe it's different a 2NL i dunno

If villians opening with trash and calling wide then pretty clear value 3B right...


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