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A5s 11$ tournament

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ma6inata100
Joined: 03.07.2011

The player that make a bet is a new to my table and i have no info. Do you think that i have a call ?
During the game i folded because i tought that often he will have A with better kicker, but now i am not sure if this was the right decision.
What do you think ?

PokerStars - $10+$1|50/100 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

skreech112 (CO): 226 (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 44)
kozuchna (BTN): 5,417 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
kekkosx (SB): 7,171 (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 44)
ma6inata100 (BB): 2,512
Slaassh (UTG): 5,511 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 44)
bluff kruel (UTG+1): 2,990 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
owilson25 (MP): 6,005 (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 6.82, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 44)
lakun2121 (MP+1): 15,732 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 9.30, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 44)
KODIACJACK (MP+2): 2,990 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

9 players post ante of 10, kekkosx posts SB 50, ma6inata100 posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 240) ma6inata100 has 5♣ A♣

Slaassh raises to 200, bluff kruel calls 200, fold, fold, KODIACJACK calls 200, fold, fold, fold, ma6inata100 calls 100

Flop: (940, 4 players) 9♠ 2♥ A♦
ma6inata100 checks, Slaassh checks, bluff kruel bets 470, fold, fold, fold

Spoiler

bluff kruel wins 940


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

I think if you're going to check/fold dry, ace-high flops then you shouldn't be calling with suited aces in the first place.

In this spot, given your stack, I think you should fold pre anyway. If you had fewer chips you could shove.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

I dont agree.
With 25bbs, paying one bb to see a flop multiway w A5s seems a good deal to me.

Posflop hero chose the safest line possible. Although, I think u can call and evaluate turn here.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Problem with hands like A5s that you need to hit 2 pair or better in a multi way pot and with a small stack you don’t get the implied odds to play this hand profitable on long run.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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ma6inata100
Joined: 03.07.2011

The question here is : Is it ok to pay 1 bb with the pot odds that i get 11% and it is obvious that i am playing to hit 2 pair or better or some draw ( flush in most of the times).

Afulibador - i don't like this kind of play that you suggest

I think u can call and evaluate turn here.

, because i do not see much cards that can make our hand better. And i expect to receive very often 2nd barrel on the turn, that i could not call, so that is why i decide to fold.


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

I think this is fine. The chance of improvement on turn is not that big and you have to invest a lot of your stack to even see one more card. But preflop I think it would be alright to fold, with the same reasoning mentioned above


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Victormm
Joined: 07.05.2008

I think the call pf is ok. On flop, if you think he is better than you or gonna 2nd barrel many turn is good to fold.
Maybe if villain take a line like cbet (and if he had a high % of cbet flop) and give up the hand (checking down turn and river, and low % of cbet turn/river), i think u can call the flop and check turn/river. But to you make that play you need to have more stats and reads/notes from the villain.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by Victormm
I think the call pf is ok. On flop, if you think he is better than you or gonna 2nd barrel many turn is good to fold.
Maybe if villain take a line like cbet (and if he had a high % of cbet flop) and give up the hand (checking down turn and river, and low % of cbet turn/river), i think u can call the flop and check turn/river. But to you make that play you need to have more stats and reads/notes from the villain.

This. I see many villains that stab on flop, them calm down the rest of the hand. Thats why I said u can call and evaluate on turn as a alternative to fold right away.
To make this play I totally agree, for safety purpose, that its good to have info on villain. Although, population tendencies seems to be just like that -> not many multiple barrels.


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ma6inata100
Joined: 03.07.2011

Victormm and Afulibador - i agree with both, but the problem is that i have no info about that player and he bets 1/2 pot vs 3 players, and the board is pretty dry so i guess he has a lot of better Ax in his range. that are the reasons which i consider by taking the decision to fold.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

If so, it makes sense. Your thought here seems to be well settled.

The only thing that keeps me thinking is that he just called pre...


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