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29.01.2016, 00:14

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 169.5 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
Hero (SB): 161.5 BB
BB: 108 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG: 140 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP: 86 BB
CO: 167.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8♥ A♥

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 5♠ 3♥ 6♥
Hero checks, MP bets 4 BB, CO raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB, MP calls 4 BB

Turn: (34 BB, 3 players) J♥
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 16 BB, Hero raises to 49 BB, fold, CO calls 33 BB

River: (132 BB, 2 players) 6♦
Hero checks, CO checks

Spoiler

Hero shows 8♥ A♥ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 45%, Turn 100%)
CO mucks Q♥ Q♠ (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes)
(Pre 68%, Flop 55%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 127.5 BB

My Thoughts: Simple got terrified by the river lol.. What do you think about this check? If villain was to shove on his turn i would call, but after the hand i thought that he would only shove a full house or a K high flush at best. Also, should i have bet the turn? I was pretty sure someone was going to bet so i went for a check-raise.


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Hesticus
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29.01.2016, 03:07 +1

x/c OTR seems fine. However, I think you can make a thin value / half-pot bet here since you can discount sets with a paired board. Next to sets, over pairs in villains range are definitely there as K♥:Q♥:, K♥:J♥:, Q♥:J♥:. So a wide range IMO.


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Dadramel
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29.01.2016, 07:42 +1

In order to keep the fish in the pot, just flatting pre will do, still i'd go for small b/f on the river since he never bluffs there and still decent amount of worse hands would call ya.


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Pistoleroo
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29.01.2016, 13:30 +1

Bet 1/3 or 1/2 pot on river. Versus a shove its probably a fold. Not betting is definitly not fine here. Villain will almost never bluff here. You're losing alot of value. We have alot of equity against his calling range. Against his raising range not so much though.


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Pistoleroo
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29.01.2016, 13:33

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Jaissica
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29.01.2016, 14:42 +1

You've both got over a hundred BB left behind. I like a bet-fold line on the river to extract value without feeling committed to paying a raise.

As Pistoleroo I am also betting 1/3rd to 1/2. Probably the lower segment of that range - something I think a smaller flush or flopped straight can call after the board pairing, and something I can easily get away from. Rarely here do I expect to get value from an overpair to the flop that had a heart redraw as QQ should have 3B preflop and tens and lower shouldn't continue for a flush redraw.

Easy folding to a shove - which would be quite funny sometimes as there are villains out there who can have a six here and shove it on the river. Not many, but some :)


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nitrol
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29.01.2016, 23:02

Agree with the bet/fold here. Villain is not a full stack( recreational maybe) so I prefer betting myself as these type of villains check back often.


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Pistoleroo
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29.01.2016, 23:12

Originally posted by nitrol
Agree with the bet/fold here. Villain is not a full stack( recreational maybe) so I prefer betting myself as these type of villains check back often.

We are deep against CO. Mp folded earlier.


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nitrol
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29.01.2016, 23:15

Sorry, but this does not change my will to bet/fold river. :)


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Pistoleroo
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29.01.2016, 23:22

Originally posted by nitrol
Sorry, but this does not change my will to bet/fold river. :)

No but ur reason to bet/fold wil though. Nothing better to do on a fridaynight then to correct people on forums:f_drink:


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Afulibador
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31.01.2016, 04:06

Originally posted by nitrol
Agree with the bet/fold here. Villain is not a full stack( recreational maybe) so I prefer betting myself as these type of villains check back often.

The Villain u are talking about already folded... read carefully.


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Afulibador
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31.01.2016, 04:10

xaves0, go for a thin value bet here. Worse can call and if they raise u all in, the fold becomes an easy move.
48bbs should do the trick.


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nitrol
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31.01.2016, 08:25

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Agree with the bet/fold here. Villain is not a full stack( recreational maybe) so I prefer betting myself as these type of villains check back often.

The Villain u are talking about already folded... read carefully.

I already answered to that, my little ball of issues. :)


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