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KK 3b pot MP v UTG - Do I always pay off here?

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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Preflop: Vs an unknown I almost never flat the open

Flop: Decided to check behind here because I figure villain will call a preflop 3b with somethine like:
TT-QQ (sometimes KK/AA, but I think villain mostly 4b's these pre) and T9s+ AQo+

Turn: Decided to flat the turn lead to induce bluffs on the river as well. If I raise now the only worse hands calling are QQ (maybe AJs, although I'm not expecting villain to call the 3b OOP too often preflop MP v UTG) and all villains bluffs are folding.

River: Brick. When he pots it I think it's polarised between better hands or bluffs. I dont think he would play this way QQ or AJ.

Paying off mostly here vs unknowns or can I find a hero fold here do you think?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.3 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 161.3 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 18.33, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 63)
BB: 149.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
UTG: 104.8 BB
Hero (MP): 254.4 BB
CO: 61.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♠ K♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 8♣ J♠ 8♦
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 8♥
UTG bets 13.3 BB, Hero calls 13.3 BB

River: (48.1 BB, 2 players) 6♣
UTG bets 45.9 BB, Hero calls 45.9 BB

UTG shows A♣ A♦ (Full House, Eights full of Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks K♠ K♣ (Full House, Eights full of Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
UTG wins 133.6 BB


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

I think QQ can do same to get value from Jx.

Do they bluff like this in those positions, on 3 same card board - no idea. I guess if they do - its rare. But I play NL5.

I guess it is close.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not like the xb on flop. Just cbet.
Turn and river are ok.


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

I bet bet bet, as played imho shove river, he ha 8x max 1 combo of 98s, 3 combo of jj and some aa that beat you; but you crush 3 kjs 3 ajs and qq


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I would also bet flop and then continue betting.


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

I guess it is pretty standard to CB here bcs we let opponents AX hand to realise their equity. Turn and river i guess is correct play.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

You design the situation by checking flop. This will induce bluffs (or what is the purpose?), and you must probably call turn and river.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would bet bet bet here. And as played I would shove river. I really expect him to 4bet AA pre and if he has 8x, good for him.


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