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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP: $5.83 (291.5 bb)
CO: $4.15 (207.5 bb)
UTG: $0.90 (45 bb)
Hero (BTN): $4.73 (236.5 bb)
SB: $4 (200 bb)
BB: $6.56 (328 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q♠: K♠:
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.12, CO calls $0.12, Hero raises to $0.48, 2 folds, MP calls $0.36, CO folds

Flop: ($1.14) T♠: Q♣: 9♣: (2 players)
MP bets $1.48, Hero folds

Results:

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$1.14 pot ($0.05 rake)
Final Board: T♠: Q♣: 9♣:
MP mucked and won $1.09 ($0.61 net)
Hero mucked Q♠: K♠: and lost (-$0.48 net)

Hi,
we stand against fish - 50/16 (100 hands)
PF I 3bet as it´s suited and connected and it´s high cards also. I flopped top pair, however there is a possible straight and also he has still overpairs in his range. Furthermore I don´t even have top kicker. When he donk bets about 1.5x pot I´m getting out. Would you call and - most likely - stack off on next streets?

And I´m sorry for stack sizes, I don´t know why but my holdem manager keeps copying it for NL2, while it´s NL4.


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Mandator
Joined: 02.02.2008

Against a whale like him, I go all in OTF, he can have easily a draw, a mid pair, TP with no kicker... and if you are losing you still have a few outs and a backdoor flush draw.

Do u have any stats postflop from him such as WWSF, W$SD, donk bet.... ??


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

50/16 is a passive villain and I would not be so excited to call...
Give some info about postflop aggresion.


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

If we count your blockers (KQ), villain is calling the 3bet with 66-TT, and hits a nice set on this flop.
He sends you the calling station telegram, makes the world know when he has a hand with a nice donk over bet. Which is not a super bad play with a set, better than check raising.
You have a made pair, an overcard, a gutshot with heavily discounted outs and a backdoor flush draw.
Good fold.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

WTSD: 20, Postflop agg: 40, flop aggression: 37, donk bet: 50, cbet: 63
Can we count on those considering I have only 100 hands on him? And that´s after session, when this hands was played I had something like 50 hands only I guess.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

No we can't count on those after only 100 hands.
I think this is a fold. He might be bluffing but he has a lot better hands in his range too. You would need a lot better bluff catcher to call this overbet.


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

Vs fish you can fold imho;: he as all kj, all set, monsterdaw, many two pair and aq


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Mozzek
WTSD: 20, Postflop agg: 40, flop aggression: 37, donk bet: 50, cbet: 63
Can we count on those considering I have only 100 hands on him? And that´s after session, when this hands was played I had something like 50 hands only I guess.

We cannot make crucial conclusions based on such a small sample. It is interesting though.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Only VPIP/PFR has some value. This guy doesn't like folding so he can have anything the board allows.


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

I guess vs fishy guy I would not 3b KQs preflop (KQo is preferred for 3b) - just call and play IP. As played I think it is massive donk - so, just folding is ok.


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