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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Pre: SB overall 3b% = 13 (3/23) and from SB = 30% (3/10). Although this is a very small sample to go upon I had notes to say that villain 3b's blind steals with 78s+, therefore I think it's safe to assume villain is 3b bluffing some proportion of the time. Flat or fold? I called for implieds but in hindsight I don't think I am deep enough for this. I usually adopt call 20* approach, so this doesn't even qualify for that.

Flop: When villain checks the flop as PFA'r I think he is mostly giving up. Don't see any reason to bet bigger. My bet is designed to fold out some A-hi and K-hi. I don't think I get any pair or draw to fold but that's not my intention. Do you prefer stabbing (bet/folding or bet/calling depending on the size of the x/raise) OR checking behind and stabbing again if checked to further?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $5.05
SB: $6.91 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: $5.05 (VPIP: 27.10, PFR: 21.29, 3Bet Preflop: 11.54, Hands: 159)
CO: $5.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has T♠ Q♠

fold, Hero raises to $0.12, SB raises to $0.45, fold, Hero calls $0.33

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 4♣ 5♠ 7♠
SB checks, Hero bets $0.46, fold

Hero wins $0.91


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by muel294
... I had notes to say that villain 3b's blind steals with 78s+, ...

..., which illustrates how much more notes are worth than stats. Besides, if he plays on 4-handed, he might now what he's doing (have to be aggro).

Flop: I am betting small here and do not mind a call, or if comes to that, a raise. Just compute pot odds and implied odds in case of a raise and remember you aren't drawing to nuts. I don't like checking because we can rarely win a SD unimproved, and a big turn bet might be too big to call and draw. But I don't hate checking for variation. We don't have to make a stab at every missed c-bet. Even if there is "auto-profit", there's sometimes more profit in other plays.


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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Flop: I am betting small here and do not mind a call, or if comes to that, a raise. Just compute pot odds and implied odds in case of a raise and remember you aren't drawing to nuts.

vs a x/raise here I would expect villain to have A♠:X:spade: /8♠:9♠:/6♠:8♠:

Against such a range I am way behind. I can maybe check the turn and try to get to SD as cheaply as possible and as you say, remember that I not drawing to the nuts.

vs his check calling range I am a lot more comfortable and would proceed with caution as villain could x/c as the PFA'r with some TP's , overpairs straight draws and some weaker FD's.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think villain will bet his FD on flop most of the time, so I do not expect him to have much when he checks.
Bet 1/2 vs the missed cbet is perfectly fine.


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