2-paired the Turn, River hit a gutshot straight, OOP.

I don't like leading the turn, you could be way behind here and getting raised would suck. Just xcall, depending on sizing.

Originally posted by coldchurch
I don't like leading the turn, you could be way behind here and getting raised would suck. Just xcall, depending on sizing.

I actually bet because of the spade draw. Don't like to wait for River to get value from my 2-pair and spade misses, then i gain nothing. Of course he can have a straight now but well i need to find out or get some money if he doesn't have it.
His min-bet on flop doesn't tell me anything at all, except he has some spades or any kind of pair.
That's pretty much my thought

We are still multi way off course and against 2 fishy players most likely I wouldn’t mind leading for thin value and protection with 2 pair on a scary board like this, but then I would bet around pot size. I expect they could still call with worse and the river I would try to get a cheap showdown by checking and fold on a reasonable bet.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Originally posted by SDK1987
We are still multi way off course and against 2 fishy players most likely I wouldn’t mind leading for thin value and protection with 2 pair on a scary board like this, but then I would bet around pot size. I expect they could still call with worse and the river I would try to get a cheap showdown by checking and fold on a reasonable bet.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I see, thanx.
So i should bet more the Turn, i agree. I only "saw" the flush draw but not the straight draw at that moment, that warrants a bigger raise against 2 villains.
I suppose on River we can't do much OOP with that kind of board :f_biggrin:, i just hope he interprets my check suspicious and check back
So turning my hand to bluff catcher is better here than a blocking bet?

On the river, I don’t think you get any value and a CO fish will never bluff as well.
I would check/fold the river most of the time.