QQ nl50

Joined: 28.12.2007

23.12.2018, 14:11 0

CO: 36/29/4.5/35 wtsd / 65 wwsf / 3bet 13 (90h) He hasnt had any 3bet hand with sd unfortunately
BU: 25/17 (50h)

Hi guys,
I don't have much experience playing this kind of spots on deep stack.
I would rather flat call 3bet than 4bet it now. I was thinking probably to force BU fold and do some feq but I realised now that my hand was way to strong and I believe that call could be fine.
Why? 1st, Pot will be big but still not big enough that (2nd) I couldnt realized my equity with QQ.
After CO cc I decided to cbet that flop for 55-60% nad CO call looks to me very strong.
JJ+ (maybe TT), Im not sure about KK and AA but pot is now big and if he 5bet or shove that I will call only top, AA KK, so I think that he probably can flat AA, KK there. I would do that in his position.
Also Im not sure about AKs if he could call this pretty big cbet OTF.
SO far: JJ, KK, AA (15 combos), QQ 1 combo split, AKs (4 combos) and TT maybe (6combos)
For me his call on the flop look very strong and I decided to fold on the turn.

Im pleased for some advices. How should I play preflop? Is my thoughts about postflop could be correct? Is fold too weak OTT? Thanks.

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MyFloXyBabY

Joined: 15.02.2010

Posts: 2,090

23.12.2018, 18:46 +2

Just call preflop. You opened from UTG and you're deep. 4betting is just asking for trouble.

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AthleticAZ

Joined: 19.09.2009

Posts: 125

23.12.2018, 18:54 +1

Preflop: call 3bet with QQ and worse pocket pairs. You get good implied odds for set mining, when deep.
I think KK+ should still 4bet.

Problem is that you can not play QQ vs 5bet (even KK are tricky, right?). Can't really call a 5bet or 6bet.

Postflop: Your cbet is way too big. I think 1/4 - 1/3 PSB could be better to keep his range wider. Maybe get calls from AKs (w/ backdoor FD), AJs maybe.

You need 50% equity OTF to cbet. You DON'T have it, sir.
Look:

Board: 3♠J♦5♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    51.78%  50.62%   1.16% { QhQs }
BB     48.22%  47.06%   1.16% { JJ+, ATs+, KQs, AKo }

Just how wide Villains range should be. Alright, we can take out some AA and KK, but then I'll be honest and take out some overcards as well:

Board: 3♠J♦5♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    46.00%  43.62%   2.38% { QhQs }
BB     54.00%  51.62%   2.38% { QQ-JJ, AdAh, AdAs, AdAc, KdKh, KdKs, KdKc, AJs, AdKd, AhKh, AsKs, AdQd, AhQh, AsQs, KdQd, KhQh, KsQs, AdTd, AhTh, AsTs }

Not great.
As played, definitely should either check or underbet (which almost the same as check).

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AvritJack

Joined: 28.12.2007

Posts: 295

23.12.2018, 20:14 0

Not great at all but this is definitely something I need to work with.
Thanks guys. You were really helpful.

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