Valuebet on the river?

On flop and turn you can get calls from draws, Ax and some pair + draw combos. On river as third barrel its fairly tough to beat over 50% of reasonable call range. If I did bet I would not go over half pot but without call machine reads just check. In general we should be also bit worried of getting x-r on river but that is likely very close to pure value in microstakes. So I dont mind betting lets say A6+ as we beat then also some weaker two pairs.

I wouldn’t say its hard for villain to have flopped made flushes because he can have all sorts of suited clubs but its not a high percentage of his range on the flop if thats what you mean.

When villain calls the big flop bet I think his range is a pair or a hand with a decent club draw.

When calls the big turn bet I give him mostly Ax and possibly a pair + FD as I dont think he should be calling the turn bet with a naked flushdraw.

River is not a club, and Idk how often his weaker Ax calls 3 streets , I think betting 1/3 river or checking maybe better.

BB can also call flop with combo hands like 54 with a club, 98 with a club , T9 with a club

EDIT: I stand corrected, looking in Flopzilla BB has 6% made flushes whereas BTN has 4.8% flushes (given ranges can vary the percentages but I think BB will generally still have more made flushes here arriving at the flop)

it's villain depended if I would go for thin value. Villain needs to be a calling station I think if you expect action of a weaker hand. Arnoud half pot is big enough, but against a really fishy player i wouldn't mind this sizing, but sometimes you will value own yourself like now most likely.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Originally posted by SDK1987
it's villain depended if I would go for thin value. Villain needs to be a calling station I think if you expect action of a weaker hand. Arnoud half pot is big enough, but against a really fishy player i wouldn't mind this sizing, but sometimes you will value own yourself like now most likely.

Cheers,
SDK1987

So, you mean tripple barrel isn't that bad, it just depends on villain?

tripple barrel is certainly not bad. You beat AT, AJ, A9 and sometimes he can talk himself into hero calling thinking you missed the clubs with something like JT.

There are also a lot of hands that got you beat though. I would fire 1/3 river bet

Thank you all for your thoughts