[Closed] NL 100 - 3beted pot, AA, fold?

Hi,

if I see it right, it's a 4bet-pot, but I guess that's just definition.
As you are a bit deep, villain can easily call 88-JJ, JTs, KQs.
If you check flop behind, which is fine, why don't you check behind turn as well and call a river bet?
If he has nuts on turn he is ch/r and if he has air he is c/f or ch/r and pushing river if you call to barrel you off your face-up hand.

Best regards,
Anin

Worst possible flop I guess. On turn, I find it difficult to believe villain has nuts, because we are checking behind pretty often, in which case would expect him to lead to get some value.

Unfortunately, our hand is not strong enough to 4b/call, so we either flat or fold immediately. I prefer to flat. Although our hand looks a lot like a scared overpair (which makes it easier for villain to bluff us off our hand) from time to time we have middle or top set here.

on the River, as well as the bluffs there will be some value shoves here and so I guess we have a fold against his entire range. Especially since villain can't be sure that we won't make a crying call with our sets here, I don't think he's going to be bluffing often enough.

it seems a shame to have to check behind the turn as Anin suggests, but overall I think it's best since there is really only one worse hand in his range we can get value from (QQ)

I like the check on the flop as well, we can not really expect to get a lot of value when we look at his entire range.

Originally posted by Tim64
On turn, I find it difficult to believe villain has nuts, because we are checking behind pretty often, in which case would expect him to lead to get some value.
Not necessarily. He can expect us to bet the valuehands we 4bet preflop and were scared to cbet with (KK+). Of course this is not a big range but we're probably not 4betting too many more hands preflop.

Unfortunately, our hand is not strong enough to 4b/call, so we either flat or fold immediately. I prefer to flat. Although our hand looks a lot like a scared overpair (which makes it easier for villain to bluff us off our hand) from time to time we have middle or top set here.
This is exactly what I think. We either have air that we're trying to stab with once, or we have KK+.
Imo we never check back with a set on the flop as our equity is great even against KQ and it's even unlikely he calls KQo OOP so there are a maximum of 4 combinations left in his range.
I don't say the bet is necessarily bad, but I think if you want to bet you have to do it with the plan of calling a raise AND a rivershove, otherwise a check on the turn is better.

on the River, as well as the bluffs there will be some value shoves here and so I guess we have a fold against his entire range. Especially since villain can't be sure that we won't make a crying call with our sets here, I don't think he's going to be bluffing often enough.

As I said if I bet the turn I'd call the c/r and the rivershove. It is a perfect spot for him to bluff and a NL1k-winning player will realize this and probably c/r 100% of his range on the turn as well as shove it on the river.

it seems a shame to have to check behind the turn as Anin suggests, but overall I think it's best since there is really only one worse hand in his range we can get value from (QQ)
I don't mind the check on the turn but I think the bet has its merits as well. You have to realize that a good opponent can put us in very tough spots (as in the actual hand), though.