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justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008

So as I'm writing this I'm playing some MTTs and realize my skill level is nowhere where it used to be. I've given poker a shot again a few times, different formats, I ended up getting a super hot run and ran up a bankroll quite quick to about $400, BRM wasn't the best I'll admit and I started a downward spiral.
Basically I was following "Asabans" https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=314586&goto=firstnew thread and I thought it created great fundamentals to start beating micros again. I'm sure it has helped but after following it for awhile I've started to lose quick significantly again.

I've played a ton of tornys during this SCOOP period with no real results, couple of deep runs but no big scores, just slowly dwindling the BR away.
I satellited into a few bigger tournaments and like I said, as I'm writing this I'm playing the $109 SCOOP ME and I bought a subscription to sharkscope and I'm basically up against crushes and it's hitting the ego pretty hard.

Situation is that I'm pretty lost as to what to do. I'm not winning at the smallest of MTTs <$1.10(created a filter on stars and have followed it quite seriously other than 50c-$1.10 satellites). BTW^^^^ I won that $109 SCOOP ME ticket when I had the $400~ BR.

I guess I need some guidance or some people to talk strategy and go over databases and hands. I'm not in a financial way to do coaching.
I've played a lot of MTTs lately so I've got quite a big sample size I suppose for such a short period.
I've got some ideas as to why I might be losing but I'd like to share some ideas with others. I know its quite beneficial to share thoughts.

Timezone is Australia so preferably someone from around that timezone but can organise other times as well if it works with work.

While playing I've been watching some twitch streams, mostly lex veldhuis, xflixx, staples, spraggy, henri, they play much higher levels so I don't think I can really apply things to well at micros, I dunno, could be wrong.

If you got through that wall of text, congrats.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

This could be that you are on the wrong side of the variance, but it’s tough to said without more information about your stats and graphs of your poker results. I don’t know ether how much MTT’s you have played in your poker career. If you are losing in more than 10k tournaments it could be a problem.

Off course you need to play a $1,10 tournament differently than a $109. Bluffing in a micro tournament isn’t working often with so many fishy players in it and in a $109 tournament you find more regulars, but I expect in a SCOOP ME variant you will find still a lot of fish with so many satellite winners in it.

Don’t forget you can also post hands regular in our Hand discussions for Tournaments board and then you will get feedback of those hands.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008

Hey SDK1987, looks like we got started here at pokerstrategy around the same time
I really appreciate the reply
I'll get some stats together and throw them in here and see how it's looking for me. I'm a really competitive person so it's quite embarrassing going through these stages especially after you feel you put in the work to make it happen
I guess I'm trying to find some methods on how to improve my game and study again.
I can bring up my stats from this year. I think I started playing again just after New Years 2017. I did take some shots at micros and CGs but it was a pretty big failure. This was my best go but I'm basically busto again.
I'm up overall from what sharkscope says but that was a longggggg time ago I won some decent coin from poker

I'll post my sharkscope
I'll post my HEM stats
I'll post my BIs won/loss
I'll post my actual winnings won/loss(I've satellites ALOT so it's going to look real bad money wise I'm going to assume

Any other ideas?

How do people start to find hands of interest in tournaments? I know I can tag the hands for review but if I was to try go through my database for hands of interest, how would I start that process?

There still was some fish in the ME SCOOP but the amount of regs was incredible. I mean guys up $100,000s! Felt way out of my league but I couldn't get a refund on the tickets so I had to play them


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justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008

So here is my overall sharkscope winnings. My roi is at 67%, right now I doubt it;s anywhere close to that. As you can see at the beginning of my career I was a bit of s crusher and then I quit for a long time and it's been breakeven/losses since then

Overall Sharkscope Graph^^^


Overall Sharkscope graph w/ variance


HEM2 WInnings 2017 MTT


HEM2 WInnings 2017 MTT by BIs


Basic MTT stats

I guess this is a start to try analysis things and see how I can improve.
As you can see my BIs aren't nearly as terrible as money lost (like I said earlier, I'm not $800 in the hole, I satellite a lot of things as well as normal schedule so that's what's going to hurt that part. IMO results are still shit.

I was interested in my bb/100 in MTTs, it's fairly high, does that mean variance is kicking my arse and I'm beating the game, just no big scores yet?
I wonder what parts of the game I'm beating and losing, early, mid late phase etc.


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justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008

I've still been playing but haven't really received anymore help, not that I expect it, just thought there would be people ina similar situation and would want to try help a brother out
Doug Polk released an article and showed a similair post from 07' and look at him now and I felt that his post from then was my exact situation
Lost my faith a little bit here


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Hey Kyle,

I feel your pain, bro. It is very discouraging playing for long hours and not getting the reward. I know a lot of players who play regular/zoom cash tables because of that very reason.

Originally posted by justkyle88
$109 SCOOP ME and I bought a subscription to sharkscope and I'm basically up against crushes and it's hitting the ego pretty hard.

This is a form of tilt and means you are likely to play with a "Going to lose anyway" mentality. Better off taking as many notes as you can.

Originally posted by justkyle88

I'm up overall from what sharkscope says but that was a longggggg time ago I won some decent coin from poker

This could be an issue as well. The game is continually evolving and what was a +Ev play even 5 years ago, may not be now.

While playing I've been watching some twitch streams, mostly lex veldhuis, xflixx, staples, spraggy, henri, they play much higher levels so I don't think I can really apply things to well at micros, I dunno, could be wrong.

Much better to watch guys streaming $22s or less. At high stakes players know each others games well and often are playing the player rather than cards.

It's almost impossible to be able to tell if you have big leak/s or just that you are running through a downswing.

Where do you think you are having problems? e.g. not accumulating chips in the early game, not being aggressive in stealing in early/mid to bubble, overplaying certain hand strengths, chasing draws etc.

Regards

Laz


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justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008

@lazza61, I do find i never tend to get a big stack, i mean it does happen but maybe not as often as I would think if i was beating the game, so i find it more often around the bubble but i end up having to play super tight with a small stack(like strategys suggest) and obviously when I have a bigger stack I end to try take advantage of the situation

@mansellboi, added on skype my man!


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angalius
Joined: 10.11.2011

Hi,
I feel like im in a very similiar situation as you. Not sure if im playing good or bad, so I switched from working hard on my technical side of poker to working on my mindset. As I did that I saw I had too much mental game problems and I was blind to this, always studying my own and other people hands. Be sure you dont only know how to play a hand, be sure you are prepared to play your A and B game most of the time, learn what is your biggest mental weakness, your fear and tilt triggers, whats the reason behind them, how to resolve them. Dont let your mental game be put away, I can tell that from my own experience a lot of these mental things can help you in your everyday life as well, seeing reasons for some things you do.


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tmannie
Joined: 09.06.2009

The problem I find with tournaments , and for this reason I only play freerolls or with tickets I have won.
Tournies seem to have a pattern, I have observed in very many online tournies that I have played. For the first hour or so I get a few playable hands, thereafter I go card dead , right until in the money, usually after 2 hours I get AA or KK which are guaranteed to lose and often take one's whole stack (and I have seen this happening with other participants too ). Personally I think spending 2-4 hours to end up basically doubling the buy-in is tripe. My observation also is that the a lot of the players with fish VPIP's seem to have the big stacks. Playing according to the book often gets one into the start of the money but very seldom any further. Are there any guidelines as to results one can expect, to me tournies are just a bit of fun with results reliant purely on luck


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