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3prswins
Joined: 27.07.2011

I've never played the 18mans before. What are they like?

I've dabbled in the 45s and 180s before. At some point i'm gonna get back into the 45s :f_cool:


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177272
Joined: 29.07.2013

Hi mate,

Railed a bit last night and tracked progress on SS.

How do you evaluate that session? Will you review specific hands spots or whole SNG's ? Will you look at early exits and the like to find out if it is run bad or play bad?

Steve


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177272
Joined: 29.07.2013

Originally posted by xHobox
No that graphs $ev my $cev not too bad just getting cruched at the ft or close too it.

Todays graph

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Sorry to be a plonker, but is that showing a $52 loss?, if so that is certainly not yesterday?? This is over 2000 hands rather than over x Number of sng's?

What analysis if any do you get from this?

Sorry if my question is a bit messy.

Steve


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Ye the graph on hem is crap the amount is incorrect was down only $32 this is because of tournament money. And about the number of hands, when I had PT4 the graphs where the same the only difference is PT4 said Sao sngs played instead of x amount of hands


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177272
Joined: 29.07.2013

What time you grinding today? I have spent HOURSSSSSSSSSS on SS searching winner players ect, and unless I am missing something is seems to be sooooooooooo hard to make money on sng's. Only the very best do well and as we know there are many 100's of 0000 players playing them.

I would welcome a chat on the subject, unless I am missing something it looks
like a grind of the highest order to make a modest profit from them from it, I know some players who repute to make a living from them and I can't see how from their stats. What do you think ?

Steve


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Their are a few people who make a modest profit at the 3.50's and 7's but the majority of people are just bankroll building for the 180's, that said I have only seen 2-3 grinders at the 1.50,3.50 level 90% of the people are just randoms which makes them very soft just gotta put in a decent amount of volume.

I'm playing now :)


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

Hey guys,

Holdem Manager 2 also has an option to look at winnings in BIs rather than chips over x hands played. There's actually a report called "Tournament Winnings Graph" where you can see your winnings in $ or BIs, which you can configure with the "Options" tab in the bottom left corner. Maybe you already know this though, in which case you can just ignore me :facepalm:

I think the graph you use is when you go to your session report and make a graph of all hands you played. Though I think this can certainly be useful to see whether you're being hit by variance or not, I also think it's going to be somewhat skewed because of different absolute stack sizes. For example in the late stages stack sizes are of course larger than in the early stages.

Kind regards,
Tino


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Thx for advice was wondering how you changed it :)


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Thx for advice was wondering how you changed it :)


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

No worries, happy I could help :)


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Ah now i remember why i didnt use that graph i could never get it to show my luck adjusted winnings. it always showed the same as my winnings no matter what. probably configured wrong :f_confused:.

This week


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Originally posted by 177272
Hi mate,

Railed a bit last night and tracked progress on SS.

How do you evaluate that session? Will you review specific hands spots or whole SNG's ? Will you look at early exits and the like to find out if it is run bad or play bad?

Steve

Yes I do tag hands and review later esp my Iso shoves I always check interesting hands and this allows me to colour code specific people ie. People who stack off early in the tourney with junk.Limp folders high blinds.limp monster and the such. Mainly working on my FT skills ATM :)


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177272
Joined: 29.07.2013

Morning,

I tried a session at the 45 $1.50's yesterday 5.30to 7.30 UK time. I was trying to get 8 tables going but they took an age to load, managed to play 13 in the 2 hrs which for me is a lot :( Are they normally that slow to load? If so I am going to have to load others types as well if I am going to get some volume practice in :f_biggrin: DOH I am such a fish, I am guessing that is why you are playing 18 man also ?

BTW a good day for you yesterday ?

Steve


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Originally posted by 177272
Morning,

I tried a session at the 45 $1.50's yesterday 5.30to 7.30 UK time. I was trying to get 8 tables going but they took an age to load, managed to play 13 in the 2 hrs which for me is a lot :( Are they normally that slow to load? If so I am going to have to load others types as well if I am going to get some volume practice in :f_biggrin: DOH I am such a fish, I am guessing that is why you are playing 18 man also ?

BTW a good day for you yesterday ?

Steve

Ye you gotta mix in some other games for the volume. Around 6:00 UK time do the tables start to fill up at the rate of 1 every 2 mins which allows you to 16 table+ comfortably. Iusualy play at the rate of 20/h for a few hours(NEED MORE VOLUME)

Any day thats not a losing day is good for me atm


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Have'nt updated in a while will post graph at the end of the week. Being bogged down with leeds festival and just general +ev partying :f_cool:


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009

page 1: full of thread savers
page 2: 1 thread saver
page 3: no thread saver

you are slacking mate! and I might report you for false advertising!


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Originally posted by thazar
page 1: full of thread savers
page 2: 1 thread saver
page 3: no thread saver

you are slacking mate! and I might report you for false advertising!

:f_grin: Ye tbh i could'nt be bothered, have spent most of my time reviewing hands and such :f_cool:. So anyways this weeks current graph.

The graph is only 2 days worth so volume per day is good just gotta grind everyday :)

Threadsaver


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177272
Joined: 29.07.2013

Hi Pal,

Was sat next to you yesterday but I guess you don't have chat on because you ignored me (How rude :) )

Looks like you are running good. No posts no Threadsavers come on man.

Steve


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Originally posted by 177272
Hi Pal,

Was sat next to you yesterday but I guess you don't have chat on because you ignored me (How rude :) )

Looks like you are running good. No posts no Threadsavers come on man.

Steve

SRY :). i only play for 4 hours a day so i need to 20+ table at peak times so i just didnt see you :) (whats ure username btw?).

And ye i've been running decent got a few hu coolers though

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Poker Stars, $1.36 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 20,568 (17.1 bb)
Hero (BB): 46,932 (39.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
SB completes, Hero raises to 3,192, SB calls 1,992

Flop: (6,534) 2 A 5 (2 players)
Hero bets 2,613, SB calls 2,613

Turn: (11,760) T (2 players)
Hero bets 4,704, SB raises to 14,688 and is all-in, Hero calls 9,984

River: (41,136) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

41,136 pot
Final Board: 2 A 5 T J
SB showed J T and won 41,136 (20,568 net)
Hero showed A K and lost (-20,568 net)

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The very next hand

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Poker Stars, $1.36 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: 33,364 (20.9 bb)
Hero (SB): 34,136 (21.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q K
Hero raises to 4,256, BB calls 2,656

Flop: (8,662) K 9 7 (2 players)
BB bets 29,033 and is all-in, Hero calls 29,033

Turn: (66,728) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (66,728) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

66,728 pot
Final Board: K 9 7 8 5
BB showed J T and won 66,728 (33,364 net)
Hero showed Q K and lost (-33,364 net)

:f_o:. Will post graph on sunday. Also i think that ineed to update my goals aswell.


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So heres this weeks graph. Carnt complain about a 100 bi week :f_biggrin: but my volume
is just so bad. This is because the 45mans dont fill up till about 6pm :(.


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