bah t'es pas obligé de cbet la même taille sur tous les boards, change tes sizings selon les boards.
Sur un board drawy comme ca cbet 3/4 pot avec toute ta range imo
ouais mais bon je cbet/turnbet tellement souvent que du coup j'ai l'impression de spew a cbet trop fort
bah c'est une texture que tu devrais moins cbet avec air de toute façon, donc 3/4 ca marche bien pour ta range normalement
Message original de kaytor
bah c'est une texture que tu devrais moins cbet avec air de toute façon, donc 3/4 ca marche bien pour ta range normalement
ouep
plus on monte de limite, plus on ne comprend rien au poker
tous sont des regs
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NL Holdem $10(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($1,102)
BB ($2,518)
UTG ($1,000)
CO ($1,419)
BTN ($982)
Dealt to Hero T♠ T♣
UTG raises to $30, CO calls $30, BTN calls $30, Hero raises to $140, fold, UTG calls $110, fold, BTN calls $110
FLOP ($460) 6♥ 4♦ 4♣
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks
TURN ($460) 6♥ 4♦ 4♣ J♠
Hero checks, UTG bets $260, BTN folds, Hero calls $260
RIVER ($980) 6♥ 4♦ 4♣ J♠ 7♥
Hero checks, UTG checks
Hero shows T♠ T♣
(Pre 65%, Flop 87.2%, Turn 2.3%)
UTG shows T♥ J♦
(Pre 35%, Flop 12.8%, Turn 97.7%)
UTG wins $977
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NL Holdem $10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($622)
Hero ($1,000)
UTG ($2,493)
UTG+1 ($1,809)
CO ($1,389)
BTN ($1,000)
Dealt to Hero A♥ 4♦
fold, UTG+1 raises to $30, fold, BTN raises to $90, SB calls $85, fold, UTG+1 calls $60
FLOP ($280) 6♦ T♦ 8♠
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, BTN bets $165, SB calls $165, UTG+1 raises to $400, BTN raises to $910 (AI), SB folds, UTG+1 calls $510
TURN ($2,265) 6♦ T♦ 8♠ 9♣
RIVER ($2,265) 6♦ T♦ 8♠ 9♣ T♣
UTG+1 shows 9♥ 7♥
(Pre 38%, Flop 96.7%, Turn 96.6%)
BTN shows K♣ T♥
(Pre 62%, Flop 3.3%, Turn 3.4%)
UTG+1 wins $2,262
$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
ilares (UTG) ($1,280.57) 128bb
UTG+1 ($793.61) 79bb
CO ($912.50) 91bb
BTN ($1,703.36) 170bb
SB ($6,711.40) 671bb
BB ($1,000) 100bb
Pre-Flop: ($15, 6 players) ilares is UTG 9♠ 9♦
ilares raises to $30, 1 fold, CO calls $30, 2 folds, BB calls $20
Flop: 10:spade: J♣ 9♥ ($95, 3 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $73.60, CO folds, BB calls $73.60
Turn: 3♥ ($242.20, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $180, BB calls $180
River: 6♥ ($602.20, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $470, BB calls $470
Final Pot: $1,542.20
BB shows
7♦ 8♦
ilares shows
9♠ 9♦
BB wins $1,539.20 (net +$785.60)
ilares lost $753.60
CO lost $30
$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($950.61) 95bb
UTG+1 ($1,043.08) 104bb
CO ($1,398.36) 140bb
BTN ($4,565.80) 457bb
SB ($3,578.20) 358bb
ilares (BB) ($1,392) 139bb
Pre-Flop: ($15, 6 players) ilares is BB A♥ 7♥
4 folds, SB raises to $30, ilares calls $20
Flop: 4♥ 9♦ 8♥ ($60, 2 players)
SB checks, ilares bets $33.63, SB calls $33.63
Turn: 10:club: ($127.26, 2 players)
SB checks, ilares bets $99.40, SB calls $99.40
River: A♦ ($326.06, 2 players)
SB checks, ilares bets $250, SB calls $250
Final Pot: $826.06
SB shows
10:diamond: 10:spade:
ilares shows
A♥ 7♥
SB wins $823.06 (net +$410.03)
ilares lost $413.03
et je post pas set up overpair vs set etc, bilan -3k pour ce petit shoot
$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($1,127) 113bb
UTG+1 ($602) 60bb
ilares (CO) ($1,651) 165bb
BTN ($1,094) 109bb
SB ($1,012) 101bb
BB ($1,000) 100bb
Pre-Flop: ($15, 6 players) ilares is CO 7♥ 6♥
UTG raises to $30, 1 fold, ilares raises to $90, 3 folds, UTG calls $60
Flop: 6♦ Q♣ 2♦ ($195, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares bets $120, UTG calls $120
Turn: K♦ ($435, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares bets $280, UTG calls $280
River: 10:heart: ($995, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares bets $640, UTG folds
Final Pot: $355
ilares shows
7♥ 6♥
ilares wins $1,635 (net +$490)
UTG lost $490
nawak je vous dis!
on doit etre pareils!
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http://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/2011/09/28/04015-20110928ARTFIG00490-les-traders-seraient-plus-fous-que-les-psychopathes.phpon doit etre pareils!
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Cest tres probable! ahaha
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Message original de ilares
$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.comStacks:
UTG ($1,127) 113bb
UTG+1 ($602) 60bb
ilares (CO) ($1,651) 165bb
BTN ($1,094) 109bb
SB ($1,012) 101bb
BB ($1,000) 100bbPre-Flop: ($15, 6 players) ilares is CO 7♥ 6♥
UTG raises to $30, 1 fold, ilares raises to $90, 3 folds, UTG calls $60Flop: 6♦ Q♣ 2♦ ($195, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares bets $120, UTG calls $120Turn: K♦ ($435, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares bets $280, UTG calls $280River: 10:heart: ($995, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares bets $640, UTG foldsFinal Pot: $355
ilares shows
7♥ 6♥ilares wins $1,635 (net +$490)
UTG lost $490
nawak je vous dis!
on doit etre pareils!
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Tu peux expliquer l'intéret de 3bet ip avec des SC vs flat call ? Ca call beaucoup les 3bet oop à ces stakes ?Sinon j'aime bien quand tu tournes ton 6 en bluff pour faire folder une Q et JJ-. Tu renvoies river même sur un ♦ ? Parce que c'est pas facile pour lui de c/c turn avec Qx sans ♦ donc je pense que les ♦ ne seraient vraiment pas bon à barrel.
tres bonne question pour le ♦ river, je pense que j'envoie la sauce quand meme car il est assez calling F/T sur les mains jouées hier
apres 3b ip ou flat call le sujet a deja fait des dizaines de pages, je commence deja que je serai du genre a faire les deux pour le balancing, en général je vais plutot 3b light 45s-67s que 89s-JTs car JT sera plus souvent dominé en 3bet pot que 45s
avantage 3b:
-peut prendre le pot de suite
-balancing de notre range de 3bet
-on peut rep des flush et fd en 3barrelant un pot3b
avantage flat:
-evite de devoir 3b/fold en cas de 4b
-SPR plus élevé
-on a pas l'initiative, on peut float,raise cbet ou raise turnbet sur un tas de board
apres faut voir selon l'adversaire s'il faut merger ou polariser sa range, ici vilain call des 3b genre 40% du temps mais comme je profite de la position a mort et que je sais qu'il aura du mal a call 3 barrels dans la plupart des cas, je prefere 3b a flat
Epic post ^^
Merci pour les explications à propos du 3bet vs call avec des SC et je suis plutot pour le call parce que ton argument de pouvoir barrel et représenter des flushs me parait négligeable vu qu'on se fait pas souvent caller preflop.
Et du coup le balancing de ta range de 3bet n'est pas très important non plus puisque ta range de 3bet/fold est "invisible"(puisque soit il fold et tu muck, soit il 4bet et tu fold) donc perso je préfère avoir des bloqueurs pour 3bet bluff IP plutot que de la jouabilité.
Mais je suis pas sur que c'est ce que tu entendais par "balancer notre range de 3bet"...
Evidemment oop ou contre des regfishs qui callent souvent des 3bet oop c'est pas la même chose mais là on parle de joueurs corrects.
"balancer notre range de 3bet" ca veut dire que sur un pot3b avec l'initative, sur K:s3:hQ:h2:h on peut avoir AK,AA,6h7h etc
du coup sur un flop 672r, on peut avoir hit
Quelques mains du jour!
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NL Holdem $10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($1,013) (fish)
Hero ($2,341)
UTG ($1,000)
CO ($1,319)
BTN ($1,298)
Dealt to Hero 9♣ K♦
fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $10
FLOP ($40) J♦ 2♦ K♥
SB bets $40, Hero calls $40
TURN ($120) J♦ 2♦ K♥ Q♥
SB bets $30, Hero calls $30
RIVER ($180) J♦ 2♦ K♥ Q♥ 3♦
SB bets $60, Hero calls $60
SB shows 3♣ J♠
(Pre 36%, Flop 17.6%, Turn 11.4%)
Hero shows 9♣ K♦
(Pre 64%, Flop 82.4%, Turn 88.6%)
SB wins $297
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($418) 105bb
UTG+1 ($122) 31bb
CO ($400) 100bb
BTN ($404) 101bb
ilares (SB) ($400) 100bb
BB ($899) 225bb
Pre-Flop: ($6, 6 players) ilares is SB A♣ A♥
4 folds, ilares raises to $12, BB raises to $36, ilares calls $24
Flop: 3♠ 3♣ 7♠ ($72, 2 players)
ilares checks, BB bets $38, ilares raises to $96, BB calls $58
Turn: K♣ ($264, 2 players)
ilares bets $120, BB goes all-in $767, ilares goes all-in $148
River: 5♦ ($800, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $800
ilares shows
A♣ A♥
BB shows
Q♠ 9♠
ilares wins $797 (net +$397)
BB collects $499 (net -$400)
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NL Holdem $4(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($489)
BB ($442)
UTG ($621) (fish)
CO ($400)
Hero ($456)
Dealt to Hero A♥ A♠
UTG raises to $16, fold, Hero raises to $48, fold, fold, UTG calls $32
FLOP ($102) 9♥ 9♠ J♠
UTG checks, Hero bets $68, UTG calls $68
TURN ($238) 9♥ 9♠ J♠ 4♦
UTG bets $100, Hero calls $100
RIVER ($438) 9♥ 9♠ J♠ 4♦ 6♥
UTG bets $250, Hero calls $240 (AI)
UTG shows 9♦ J♦
(Pre 21%, Flop 91.4%, Turn 95.5%)
Hero shows A♥ A♠
(Pre 79%, Flop 8.6%, Turn 4.5%)
UTG wins $915
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NL Holdem $10(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($1,867)
BB ($1,333)
UTG ($2,165)
UTG+1 ($2,438) (fish)
CO ($1,052)
BTN ($5,064)
Dealt to Hero 5♠ J♣
UTG raises to $25, UTG+1 calls $25, CO raises to $120, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $95, UTG+1 raises to $2,438 (AI), CO calls $932 (AI), UTG calls $2,045 (AI)
FLOP ($5,397) 2♦ 9♠ 4♠
TURN ($5,397) 2♦ 9♠ 4♠ 9♥
RIVER ($5,397) 2♦ 9♠ 4♠ 9♥ 6♣
UTG+1 shows A♦ A♠
(Pre 76%, Flop 89.9%, Turn 95.2%)
CO shows J♥ A♣
(Pre 6%, Flop 1.2%, Turn 0.0%)
UTG shows Q♠ Q♥
(Pre 19%, Flop 9.0%, Turn 4.8%)
UTG+1 wins $5,394
interessante celles la
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NL Holdem $4(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($400)
BB ($614)
UTG ($680)
Hero ($1,251)
CO ($813)
BTN ($486)
Dealt to Hero xx
fold, Hero raises to $12, fold, fold, SB raises to $42, fold, Hero calls $30
FLOP ($88) 2♣ 8♦ 2♠
SB bets $46, Hero calls $46
TURN ($180) 2♣ 8♦ 2♠ K♠
SB bets $106, Hero calls $106
RIVER ($392) 2♣ 8♦ 2♠ K♠ J♣
SB bets $206 (AI), Hero calls $206
Hero shows K♣ K♥
(Pre 82%, Flop 91.6%, Turn 100.0%)
SB shows T♥ T♣
(Pre 18%, Flop 8.4%, Turn 0.0%)
Hero wins $801
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NL Holdem $10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($6,634) (fish)
BB ($1,000)
UTG ($4,306)
Hero ($1,962)
CO ($1,015)
BTN ($1,296)
Dealt to Hero K♣ Q♥
UTG raises to $30, Hero calls $30, fold, fold, SB raises to $110, fold, UTG raises to $300, fold, SB calls $190
FLOP ($640) 2♠ 5♥ 6♥
SB checks, UTG bets $382, SB calls $382
TURN ($1,404) 2♠ 5♥ 6♥ 8♥
SB checks, UTG checks
RIVER ($1,404) 2♠ 5♥ 6♥ 8♥ 3♠
SB bets $2,280, UTG calls $2,280
SB shows K♥ J♥
(Pre 17%, Flop 31.5%, Turn 84.1%)
UTG shows A♥ A♦
(Pre 83%, Flop 68.5%, Turn 15.9%)
SB wins $5,961
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NL Holdem $2(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($201)
BB ($403)
UTG ($216)
Hero ($331)
CO ($265)
BTN ($200)
Dealt to Hero 2♦ A♦
UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $6, fold, fold, fold, fold
FLOP ($15) K♥ 3♥ T♦
UTG bets $10, Hero calls $10
TURN ($35) K♥ 3♥ T♦ 4♥
UTG bets $24, Hero raises to $71.62, UTG calls $47.62
RIVER ($178) K♥ 3♥ T♦ 4♥ 5♣
UTG checks, Hero bets $130, UTG calls $128 (AI)
UTG shows 4♦ 4♠
(Pre 66%, Flop 80.4%, Turn 90.9%)
Hero shows 2♦ A♦
(Pre 34%, Flop 19.6%, Turn 9.1%)
Hero wins $432
ca c'est rigolo (toujours bluff avec un gs!)
