Analyse de Xorys
Xorys est un joueur de Cash Game NL2 qui a recommencé, il y a quelques semaines à jouer en ligne en multi tablant jusqu’à 6 tables de Full Ring.
Un ami à lui arrive à sortir quelques centaines d'euros par mois, Cela lui donné l'envie de faire pareil. Pour Xorys, le cash-game ne devrait être qu'un tremplin pour pouvoir jouer des MTT un peu plus cher et puis l'avantage du cash-game, c'est que l'on peut y jouer dans devoir passer 4 ou 5 heures devant son écran.
Manque de bol, la seconde expérience se passe comme la première et la courbe de gains est exactement opposée à l'effet recherché. Pourtant, ce n'est pas faute mettre du coeur à l'ouvrage vu le nombre de vidéos et de coaching qu'il suit. Même si il essaye d'appliquer ce qu'il y a apprend, Xorys avoue qu'il ne comprend pas toujours bien comment appliquer les notions qui y sont abordées.
Dans l'ensemble, on ne peut pas vraiment tirer de conclusion de cette courbe, si ce n'est qu'un changement dans sont jeux est apparu récemment. Il est désormais moins agressif et gagne beaucoup plus de coups lorsqu'ils vont a l'abattage.
Lorsque je discute de stats avec Xorys puisqu'il n'utilise pas un tracker depuis très longtemps, il appréhende encore assez mal la signification qui se cache derrière chaque stats.
On passe donc au statistiques : VPIP - PFR : 22/13. Rien de super alarmant mais globalement trop passif preflop, il est presque certain que Xorys perd beaucoup d'argent dans de nombreux spots parce qu'il joue des spots multiways plus compliqués à jouer que des mains jouées heads-up.
Lorsque l'on regarde de façon un peu plus précise par position
On se rend compte de plusieurs choses :
- L'écart entre vpip/pfr est marqué sur toutes les positions
- Le vpip est bien progressif par position ( c'est plutôt bien )
- Le pourcentage de 3bet est trop faible ( mais c'est anecdotique )
- Le Won at showdown est globalement beaucoup trop faible
De toute évidence, ce qui semble être très dommageable à Xorys, c'est sa tendance passive et sa difficulté a gagner au showdown.
Au niveau des résultats cela donne ceci :
Limp : 9 % - Limp with previous limper : 12 %
Par contre lorsqu'il raise first-in
Lorsqu'on filtre sur "any raise"
Tout cela à l'air de tendre vers une conclusion relativement simple, lorsque le coup est joué "relativement" simple, Xorys dégage du profit. Lorsqu'il rentre dans ce qui sera un pot multiway ou 3bet, il a plus de mal à se situer et a gagner à l'abattage. Sa stratégie aggro à l'air de globalement mal fonctionné.
Main 1
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
MP: €2.00 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 8.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
CO: €3.93 (VPIP: 27.03, PFR: 20.62, 3Bet Preflop: 4.13, Hands: 422)
BTN: €2.07 (VPIP: 12.53, PFR: 8.27, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 410)
SB: €2.16 (VPIP: 17.47, PFR: 12.17, 3Bet Preflop: 2.31, Hands: 1,234)
BB: €2.45 (VPIP: 13.11, PFR: 6.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.99, Hands: 331)
Hero (UTG): €2.00
UTG+1: €1.98 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has 5♦ 5♠
Hero calls €0.02, UTG+1 calls €0.02, MP calls €0.02, CO raises to €0.06, fold, SB calls €0.05, fold, Hero calls €0.04, UTG+1 raises to €0.10, fold, CO calls €0.04, SB calls €0.04, Hero calls €0.04
Flop: (€0.44, 4 players) J♣ 9♠ 7♦
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks
Turn: (€0.44, 4 players) J♦
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks
River: (€0.44, 4 players) 6♦
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks
CO shows 3♦ 3♠ (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes)
(Pre 16%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB shows 2♠ 2♣ (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos)
(Pre 15%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
UTG+1 shows Q♥ A♠ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 33%, Flop 30%, Turn 30%)
Hero shows 5♦ 5♠ (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)
(Pre 35%, Flop 52%, Turn 60%)
Hero wins €0.41
Main 2
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: €1.91 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG+1: €0.54 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: €2.58 (VPIP: 10.10, PFR: 7.05, 3Bet Preflop: 2.48, Hands: 529)
MP+1: €1.84 (VPIP: 20.47, PFR: 6.73, 3Bet Preflop: 1.90, Hands: 343)
CO: €2.00 (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 5.36, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 113)
BTN: €2.39 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 113)
Hero (SB): €2.00
BB: €2.32 (VPIP: 16.82, PFR: 11.73, 3Bet Preflop: 2.55, Hands: 890)
Hero posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has 6♦ A♦
UTG calls €0.02, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.08, fold, UTG calls €0.06
Flop: (€0.18, 2 players) T♣ 9♥ 4♦
Hero bets €0.14, UTG calls €0.14
Turn: (€0.46, 2 players) 2♣
Hero bets €0.23, UTG calls €0.23
River: (€0.92, 2 players) Q♠
Hero checks, UTG bets €0.46, Hero calls €0.46
UTG shows 8♣ 7♣ (High Card, Queen)
(Pre 45%, Flop 48%, Turn 45%)
Hero shows 6♦ A♦ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 55%, Flop 52%, Turn 55%)
Hero wins €1.72
Main 3
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: €5.54 (VPIP: 61.54, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
BB: €0.81 (VPIP: 19.82, PFR: 7.49, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 228)
UTG: €1.73 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG+1: €1.96 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (MP): €2.00
MP+1: €0.67 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
MP+2: €2.00 (VPIP: 23.61, PFR: 18.31, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 73)
CO: €4.99 (VPIP: 12.23, PFR: 2.66, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 192)
BTN: €3.51 (VPIP: 31.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has Q♣ Q♥
fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.08, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls €0.06
Flop: (€0.17, 2 players) 3♣ 9♣ 5♦
BB checks, Hero bets €0.11, BB calls €0.11
Turn: (€0.39, 2 players) 9♥
BB checks, Hero bets €0.26, BB raises to €0.62 and is all-in, Hero calls €0.36
River: (€1.63, 2 players) Q♦
BB shows 3♦ 3♠ (Full House, Threes full of Nines)
(Pre 19%, Flop 87%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows Q♣ Q♥ (Full House, Queens full of Nines)
(Pre 81%, Flop 13%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins €1.52
Main 4
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (UTG): €3.86
UTG+1: €0.81 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 2.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
MP: €2.32 (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
MP+1: €2.00 (VPIP: 17.61, PFR: 5.03, 3Bet Preflop: 2.00, Hands: 160)
CO: €3.08 (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BTN: €1.97 (VPIP: 19.56, PFR: 7.56, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 226)
SB: €2.02 (VPIP: 12.37, PFR: 2.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 190)
BB: €2.03 (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 14.49, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has A♥ Q♣
Hero raises to €0.08, fold, MP calls €0.08, MP+1 calls €0.08, fold, fold, fold, fold
Flop: (€0.27, 3 players) A♠ Q♦ K♥
Hero bets €3.78 and is all-in, MP calls €2.24 and is all-in, fold
Turn: (€4.75, 2 players) 4♣
River: (€4.75, 2 players) 4♦
Hero shows A♥ Q♣ (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 63%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
MP shows J♣ T♦ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 37%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins €1.54
MP wins €4.44
Main 5
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: €0.77 (VPIP: 55.09, PFR: 7.78, 3Bet Preflop: 1.39, Hands: 169)
UTG+1: €7.04 (VPIP: 56.67, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 30)
MP: €2.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (MP+1): €4.36
MP+2: €2.00 (VPIP: 10.95, PFR: 4.44, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 137)
CO: €2.00 (VPIP: 16.03, PFR: 9.66, 3Bet Preflop: 2.31, Hands: 473)
BTN: €2.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: €3.22 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BB: €1.76 (VPIP: 76.67, PFR: 46.67, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 30)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02, MP posts penalty blind €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.05) Hero has A♣ J♣
UTG calls €0.02, UTG+1 calls €0.02, MP checks, Hero raises to €0.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls €0.08, fold, UTG+1 calls €0.08, fold
Flop: (€0.35, 3 players) T♣ T♥ 7♣
BB bets €0.35, fold, Hero calls €0.35
Turn: (€1.05, 2 players) 7♠
BB bets €0.53, Hero calls €0.53
River: (€2.11, 2 players) J♦
BB bets €0.78 and is all-in, Hero calls €0.78
Hero shows A♣ J♣ (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 52%, Turn 2%)
BB shows 6♣ 7♥ (Full House, Sevens full of Tens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 48%, Turn 98%)
BB wins €3.43
Main 6
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
MP: €1.34 (VPIP: 54.61, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 1.54, Hands: 154)
CO: €5.31 (VPIP: 51.85, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 27)
Hero (BTN): €2.95
SB: €2.00 (VPIP: 12.30, PFR: 4.96, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 122)
BB: €2.00 (VPIP: 16.23, PFR: 9.67, 3Bet Preflop: 2.36, Hands: 461)
UTG: €3.24 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
UTG+1: €3.04 (VPIP: 74.07, PFR: 44.44, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 27)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has 9♦ 9♣
fold, UTG+1 raises to €0.04, MP calls €0.04, CO raises to €0.25, Hero raises to €2.95 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls €2.70
Flop: (€6.01, 2 players) A♣ T♠ 6♠
Turn: (€6.01, 2 players) K♥
River: (€6.01, 2 players) 4♥
Hero shows 9♦ 9♣ (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
CO shows J♥ J♣ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
CO wins €5.62
Main 7
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: €1.28 (VPIP: 46.30, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
UTG: €2.00 (VPIP: 7.60, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.88, Hands: 423)
UTG+1: €2.51 (VPIP: 46.85, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 112)
Hero (MP): €2.11
CO: €1.09 (VPIP: 27.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 365)
BTN: €1.52 (VPIP: 30.91, PFR: 14.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
SB: €2.24 (VPIP: 23.21, PFR: 9.82, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 113)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has A♦ A♣
fold, UTG+1 calls €0.02, Hero raises to €0.08, fold, fold, fold, BB calls €0.06, UTG+1 calls €0.06
Flop: (€0.25, 3 players) 3♥ A♥ J♦
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks
Turn: (€0.25, 3 players) 6♥
BB checks, UTG+1 bets €0.04, Hero calls €0.04, BB calls €0.04
River: (€0.37, 3 players) 9♣
BB checks, UTG+1 bets €2.39 and is all-in, Hero calls €1.99 and is all-in, fold
Hero shows A♦ A♣ (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 81%, Flop 72%, Turn 20%)
UTG+1 shows J♥ 7♥ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 19%, Flop 28%, Turn 80%)
UTG+1 wins €4.47
Main 8
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: €0.88 (VPIP: 10.98, PFR: 2.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 256)
UTG: €2.11 (VPIP: 12.22, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 180)
UTG+1: €1.38 (VPIP: 36.07, PFR: 3.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 63)
MP: €1.63 (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP+1: €2.02 (VPIP: 13.14, PFR: 7.20, 3Bet Preflop: 2.82, Hands: 238)
CO: €2.00 (VPIP: 20.24, PFR: 5.95, 3Bet Preflop: 1.89, Hands: 171)
BTN: €4.78 (VPIP: 14.77, PFR: 9.28, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 238)
Hero (SB): €2.00
Hero posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has 7♠ A♦
fold, fold, MP calls €0.02, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.06, fold, MP calls €0.04
Flop: (€0.14, 2 players) 2♠ 7♥ 5♦
Hero bets €0.14, MP calls €0.14
Turn: (€0.42, 2 players) T♠
Hero bets €0.28, MP calls €0.28
River: (€0.98, 2 players) 5♣
Hero bets €1.52 and is all-in, MP calls €1.15 and is all-in
MP shows 9♠ 9♣ (Two Pair, Nines and Fives)
(Pre 71%, Flop 78%, Turn 89%)
Hero shows 7♠ A♦ (Two Pair, Sevens and Fives)
(Pre 29%, Flop 22%, Turn 11%)
MP wins €3.07
Hero wins €0.37
Main 9
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: €2.79 (VPIP: 22.65, PFR: 3.48, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 289)
CO: €0.79 (VPIP: 27.66, PFR: 10.07, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 283)
Hero (BTN): €3.30
SB: €4.09 (VPIP: 26.14, PFR: 7.43, 3Bet Preflop: 1.45, Hands: 177)
BB: €0.63 (VPIP: 37.98, PFR: 16.02, 3Bet Preflop: 3.09, Hands: 259)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has Q♠ Q♥
fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.06, SB raises to €0.30, BB raises to €0.63 and is all-in, Hero calls €0.57, SB raises to €4.09 and is all-in, Hero calls €2.67 and is all-in
Flop: (€7.23, 3 players) 8♠ 4♦ Q♦
Turn: (€7.23, 3 players) 2♦
River: (€7.23, 3 players) 6♠
BB shows A♣ T♥ (High Card, Ace)
Main Pot [€1.89]: (Pre 25%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows Q♠ Q♥ (Three of a Kind, Queens)
Main Pot [€1.89]: (Pre 18%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
Side Pot#1 [€5.34]: (Pre 18%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
SB shows K♠ K♣ (One Pair, Kings)
Main Pot [€1.89]: (Pre 58%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [€5.34]: (Pre 82%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins €6.76
SB wins €0.79
Main 10
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: €2.02 (VPIP: 23.55, PFR: 3.86, 3Bet Preflop: 2.83, Hands: 261)
SB: €4.04 (VPIP: 34.67, PFR: 13.45, 3Bet Preflop: 1.32, Hands: 226)
BB: €3.27 (VPIP: 36.42, PFR: 5.81, 3Bet Preflop: 2.60, Hands: 175)
Hero (UTG): €1.30
MP: €2.00 (VPIP: 28.65, PFR: 11.46, 3Bet Preflop: 2.27, Hands: 192)
CO: €0.79 (VPIP: 31.93, PFR: 10.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.00, Hands: 239)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02, MP posts penalty blind €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.05) Hero has J♣ K♥
Hero raises to €0.04, MP calls €0.02, fold, fold, SB calls €0.03, BB calls €0.02
Flop: (€0.16, 4 players) 3♥ T♣ K♦
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets €0.11, MP calls €0.11, SB calls €0.11, fold
Turn: (€0.49, 3 players) 6♣
SB checks, Hero bets €0.33, MP calls €0.33, fold
River: (€1.15, 2 players) A♠
Hero bets €0.82 and is all-in, fold
Hero wins €1.90
Main 11
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Winamax - €0.02 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
MP+1: €1.21 (VPIP: 22.03, PFR: 1.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 60)
CO: €2.34 (VPIP: 35.16, PFR: 5.49, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 91)
Hero (BTN): €2.71
SB: €1.35 (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 57)
BB: €2.00 (VPIP: 43.33, PFR: 35.59, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 60)
UTG: €1.40 (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 3.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
UTG+1: €0.73 (VPIP: 29.03, PFR: 6.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
MP: €2.00 (VPIP: 32.26, PFR: 22.58, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 62)
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02, MP posts penalty blind €0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.05) Hero has 4♣ A♣
UTG calls €0.02, UTG+1 calls €0.02, MP checks, fold, CO calls €0.02, Hero raises to €0.10, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls €0.08, fold, CO calls €0.08
Flop: (€0.37, 3 players) K♦ 2♦ 5♠
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets €0.15, fold, CO raises to €2.24 and is all-in, Hero calls €2.09
Turn: (€4.85, 2 players) 8♦
River: (€4.85, 2 players) T♠
Hero shows 4♣ A♣ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 55%, Flop 45%, Turn 0%)
CO shows J♦ Q♦ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 45%, Flop 55%, Turn 100%)
CO wins €4.53
Etant donné que la session a duré plus de 3 heures 10 minutes. On a décide de terminer l'analyse des quelques dernieres mains plus tard et de faire une petite session live pour vérifier que les conseils sont bien appliqués pendant le jeux ..
Liste des vidéos recommandées :
Je lui donne alors quelques recommandations :
Recommandations faites à Xorys :
- Faire un warm-up avant chaque session
- Jouer moins de tables. Une idéalement et deux au maximum pour prendre le temps d'analyser chaque coup.
- Adapter une stratégie de raise/bet ou fold préflop. La position ou le call est autorisé, c'est le bouton si il overlimp.
... TO BE CONTINUED ...
( Avec un replay en video ... ( normalement ) )