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17: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $12.84 (51.4 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
MP: $37.95 (151.8 bb)
Hero (UTG): $25.25 (101 bb)
BTN: $25.33 (101.3 bb)
SB: $25.70 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) Q 3 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.29, BTN raises to $5.60, Hero calls $4.31

Turn: ($13.05) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($13.05) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5

Results: $23.05 pot ($1.53 rake)
Final Board: Q 3 4 A 7
Hero showed K K and lost (-$11.35 net)
BTN showed 8 A and won $21.52 ($10.17 net)

16: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $24.32 (97.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
CO: $11.96 (47.8 bb)
BB: $13.72 (54.9 bb)
MP: $32.44 (129.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
MP folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, SB folds, BB calls $1, CO calls $1

Flop: ($3.85) 9 4 K (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2, BB folds

Turn: ($7.85) 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

River: ($17.85) T (2 players)
CO bets $3.71 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.71

Results: $25.27 pot ($1.68 rake)
Final Board: 9 4 K 8 T
Hero showed A K and lost (-$11.96 net)
CO showed T 9 and won $23.59 ($11.63 net)

15: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $14.53 (58.1 bb)
SB: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $38.72 (154.9 bb)
MP: $23.60 (94.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
2 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.10) 8 J 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BTN raises to $11.03 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.03

Turn: ($29.16) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($29.16) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $29.16 pot ($1.94 rake)
Final Board: 8 J 9 8 Q
BTN showed Q T and won $27.22 ($12.69 net)
Hero showed K K and lost (-$14.53 net)

14: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $29 (116 bb)
Hero (MP): $53.23 (212.9 bb)
UTG: $25.26 (101 bb)
BB: $16.28 (65.1 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $14.15 (56.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5 5
UTG raises to $1, Hero calls $1, CO calls $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.10) K 5 T (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2.87, Hero calls $2.87, 2 folds

Turn: ($9.84) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.25, Hero raises to $10.50, UTG calls $5.25

River: ($30.84) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $10.89 and is all-in, Hero calls $10.89

Results: $52.62 pot ($3.50 rake)
Final Board: K 5 T 2 3
Hero showed 5 5 and lost (-$25.26 net)
UTG showed T T and won $49.12 ($23.86 net)

13: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $31.36 (125.4 bb)
CO: $60.42 (241.7 bb)
UTG: $16.58 (66.3 bb)
BB: $45.24 (181 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 6
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB folds, UTG raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.75) Q A 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG raises to $15.33 and is all-in, Hero calls $10.83

Turn: ($33.41) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($33.41) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $33.41 pot ($2.22 rake)
Final Board: Q A 6 T 5
Hero showed 6 6 and lost (-$16.58 net)
UTG showed Q Q and won $31.19 ($14.61 net)

12: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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UTG: $33.66 (134.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $29.70 (118.8 bb)
CO: $40.05 (160.2 bb)
SB: $15.75 (63 bb)
MP: $24.15 (96.6 bb)
BTN: $35.41 (141.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K Q
UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, CO folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.10) 4 6 3 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, BTN bets $1, Hero calls $1, UTG folds, MP calls $1

Turn: ($7.10) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.31, BTN calls $3.31, Hero calls $3.31

River: ($17.03) T (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $7.95, BTN raises to $15.90, Hero calls $15.90, MP folds

Results: $56.78 pot ($3.78 rake)
Final Board: 4 6 3 6 T
Hero mucked K Q and lost (-$21.21 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$13.26 net)
BTN showed 5 7 and won $53 ($31.79 net)

11: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $25.85 (103.4 bb)
CO: $66.71 (266.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $39.50 (158 bb)
BB: $26.51 (106 bb)
UTG: $16.10 (64.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, CO calls $2.75

Flop: ($8) K 7 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.60, CO calls $5.60

Turn: ($19.20) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $17.92, Hero calls $15.90 and is all-in

River: ($51) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $51 pot ($3.40 rake)
Final Board: K 7 3 2 7
CO showed Q 9 and won $47.60 ($22.60 net)
Hero mucked A K and lost (-$25 net)

10: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $29.12 (116.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $44.78 (179.1 bb)
SB: $11.56 (46.2 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $14.09 (56.4 bb)
UTG: $23.60 (94.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
UTG raises to $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.90, Hero raises to $4, UTG calls $3, SB calls $3

Flop: ($12) 7 6 T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8.40, UTG raises to $19.55, SB folds, Hero raises to $40.78 and is all-in, UTG calls $0.05 and is all-in

Turn: ($51.20) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($51.20) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $51.20 pot ($3.41 rake)
Final Board: 7 6 T 9 9
Hero showed K K and lost (-$23.60 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$4 net)
UTG showed 9 8 and won $47.79 ($24.19 net)

9: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
CO: $27 (108 bb)
Hero (BB): $42.18 (168.7 bb)
BTN: $32.81 (131.2 bb)
MP: $20.15 (80.6 bb)
UTG: $27.31 (109.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero raises to $42.18 and is all-in, UTG folds, BTN calls $28.81 and is all-in

Flop: ($66.72) J 7 T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($66.72) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($66.72) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $66.72 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: J 7 T 5 8
Hero showed K K and won $0.00 (-$32.81 net)
BTN showed A A and won $62.72 ($29.91 net)

8: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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Hero (SB): $26.50 (106 bb)
BTN: $25.25 (101 bb)
BB: $26.66 (106.6 bb)
CO: $44.64 (178.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BB folds, CO calls $1

Flop: ($2.75) 2 9 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.92, CO calls $1.92

Turn: ($6.59) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.62, CO calls $4.62

River: ($15.83) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.25, CO raises to $36.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $12.46 and is all-in

Results: $53.25 pot ($3.00 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 3 4 6
Hero showed J J and lost (-$26.50 net)
CO showed J 5 and won $50.25 ($23.75 net)

7: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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CO: $25 (100 bb)
SB: $31.08 (124.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $31.82 (127.3 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $19.16 (76.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T T
Hero raises to $1, CO calls $1, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 8 5 T (2 players)
Hero bets $1.65, CO raises to $3.30, Hero raises to $8, CO raises to $24 and is all-in, Hero calls $16

Turn: ($50.35) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($50.35) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $50.35 pot ($3.00 rake)
Final Board: 8 5 T Q 3
CO showed K 8 and won $47.35 ($22.35 net)
Hero showed T T and lost (-$25 net)

6: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
SB: $27.31 (109.2 bb)
BB: $8.35 (33.4 bb)
MP: $27.05 (108.2 bb)
BTN: $23.72 (94.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN folds, SB calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: ($1.75) 4 J 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($7.25) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.38, SB raises to $23.81 and is all-in, Hero calls $18.12 and is all-in

River: ($50.25) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $50.25 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 4 J 8 9 9
Hero showed K K and lost (-$25 net)
SB showed 6 7 and won $47.25 ($22.25 net)

5:

4: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $31.81 (127.2 bb)
SB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $21.43 (85.7 bb)
BB: $44.07 (176.3 bb)
MP: $29.66 (118.6 bb)
CO: $40.51 (162 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T T
UTG posts BB OOP, UTG checks, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB calls $0.75, UTG folds

Flop: ($2.35) 2 7 4 (2 players)
BB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $2.21, BB raises to $43.07 and is all-in, Hero calls $28.60

Turn: ($63.97) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($63.97) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $63.97 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 2 7 4 Q K
Hero showed T T and lost (-$31.81 net)
BB showed K 9 and won $59.97 ($28.16 net)

3: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (CO): $85.58 (342.3 bb)
BTN: $29.30 (117.2 bb)
SB: $39.06 (156.2 bb)
UTG: $34.01 (136 bb)
BB: $29.57 (118.3 bb)
MP: $49.59 (198.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 2
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN folds, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) A 2 6 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1.40, Hero raises to $4.20, SB raises to $38.56 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls $34.36

Turn: ($80.02) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($80.02) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $80.02 pot ($4.00 rake)
Final Board: A 2 6 K 3
Hero showed 2 2 and lost (-$39.06 net)
SB showed 7 K and won $76.02 ($36.96 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$1.90 net)

2: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $31.84 (127.4 bb)
MP: $25.15 (100.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $25.35 (101.4 bb)
BTN: $7.71 (30.8 bb)
BB: $62.03 (248.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
MP raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, MP raises to $7.50, Hero raises to $25.35 and is all-in, MP calls $17.65 and is all-in

Flop: ($50.65) K 4 J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($50.65) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($50.65) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $50.65 pot ($3.00 rake)
Final Board: K 4 J 9 6
MP showed A A and won $47.65 ($22.50 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$25.15 net)

1: Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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CO: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $17.22 (68.9 bb)
Hero (MP): $25.75 (103 bb)
SB: $17.28 (69.1 bb)
BTN: $28.13 (112.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K K
Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN folds, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) J 4 K (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.80, CO raises to $7.46, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12.59, CO raises to $24.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.66

Turn: ($51.50) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($51.50) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $51.50 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: J 4 K 4 T
CO showed 4 4 and won $48.50 ($23.50 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$0.75 net)
Hero showed K K and lost (-$25 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$0.75 net)

CSB

Sans vouloir t'offenser, y'a pas mal de mains mal jouées.

Pas de problème dis moi lesquels et comment j'aurais du les jouer? En sachant quand je call le tapis c'est souvent des joueurs avec un AF de 40+, qui peut faire ça avec Air total.

ouep,au lieu de te plaindre tu ferais mieux de revoir tes mains en te demandant où tu aurais pu minimiser les pertes.

Oh lieux de me faire la morale dis moi quel main et comment, c'est facile de critiquer quand on est pas à ma place ...

Message original de Scytale
Oh lieux de me faire la morale dis moi quel main et comment, c'est facile de critiquer quand on est pas à ma place ...

Ouais t'es clairement le seul joueur de poker ici à te prendre des "horreurs". On ne peut pas comprendre.

Ça sert a rien de me cracher dessus, j'ai jamais dis être le seul, mais bon je voie qu'il n'y a que des lumières ici, excusez moi de me plaindre dans un topic qui à été créé justement pour "SE PLAINDRE" ...

Message original de Scytale
Ça sert a rien de me cracher dessus, j'ai jamais dis être le seul, mais bon je voie qu'il n'y a que des lumières ici, excusez moi de me plaindre dans un topic qui à été créé justement pour "SE PLAINDRE" ...

S'il y a bien une chose que j'ai compris sur ce forum (je parle de la partie downside), c'est qu'il y a personne pour t'aider. Les seules bonnes aides sont les analystes mais sinon, il y a toujours des joueurs qui savent 10x mieux jouer que toi et qui sont prêts à juste te pousser plus profond dans le trou.

20 raise + fort flop
19 b/f turn
18 b/f river, tu bats riiiiiiien
17je prefere c/c river que b/f
14 raise 12/13 turn
12 donk ou c/r ce flop, c/c bet 1/4 c'est ridicule, turn as played c/r ou donk, river fold (il minraise que nutflush ou full imo)
11 pk tu bet pas turn? tu veux offrir une carte gratuite a A:sQ:d?
9 4b pf a 2x-2.5x
8 c/c ou c/f river tu bats plus grand chose y'a des 5x et des dp de partout
7 3b flop
5 c'est la meme que #18...

avec tout ca tu as deja 4-5 caves economisées ^^

Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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BB: $25.55 (102.2 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)
CO: $25.79 (103.2 bb)
MP: $25.43 (101.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
MP folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB folds, CO calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.25) 8 8 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO raises to $4, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($11.25) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $7.87, Hero calls $7.87

River: ($26.99) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12.42 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.63 and is all-in

Results: $50.25 pot ($3.00 rake)
Final Board: 8 8 3 A 5
Hero showed K K and won $47.25 ($22.25 net)
CO showed Q 9 and won $0.00 (-$25 net)

Je tien juste a poster une mains qui montre bien que je peux être confronté à air total, et que dans les mains posté je pensais être confronté à la même chose, maintenant si vous y voyez quelque chose qui me permettrais de faire la différence entre air et nuts je suis preneur.

Message original de ilares
20 raise + fort flop
19 b/f turn
18 b/f river, tu bats riiiiiiien
17je prefere c/c river que b/f
14 raise 12/13 turn
12 donk ou c/r ce flop, c/c bet 1/4 c'est ridicule, turn as played c/r ou donk, river fold (il minraise que nutflush ou full imo)
11 pk tu bet pas turn? tu veux offrir une carte gratuite a A:sQ:d?
9 4b pf a 2x-2.5x
8 c/c ou c/f river tu bats plus grand chose y'a des 5x et des dp de partout
7 3b flop
5 c'est la meme que #18...

avec tout ca tu as deja 4-5 caves economisées ^^

20: je suis déjà battue ^^
18: je suis pot commit
14: ça reste un set up qd même ^^
11: je suis pot commit donc en voyant la flush j'espère un showdown le moins chère possible
9: je suis dacore mais çà change pas que je me prend AA
8: je le mes sur un FD raté avec un Ax, il a un Af river de 50 je pense qu'il bluff ...
7: c'est un maniac, ça n'aurait pas changé l'issue de la main

Message original de Scytale

Message original de ilares
20 raise + fort flop
19 b/f turn
18 b/f river, tu bats riiiiiiien
17je prefere c/c river que b/f
14 raise 12/13 turn
12 donk ou c/r ce flop, c/c bet 1/4 c'est ridicule, turn as played c/r ou donk, river fold (il minraise que nutflush ou full imo)
11 pk tu bet pas turn? tu veux offrir une carte gratuite a A:sQ:d?
9 4b pf a 2x-2.5x
8 c/c ou c/f river tu bats plus grand chose y'a des 5x et des dp de partout
7 3b flop
5 c'est la meme que #18...

avec tout ca tu as deja 4-5 caves economisées ^^

20: je suis déjà battue ^^
18: je suis pot commit
14: ça reste un set up qd même ^^
11: je suis pot commit donc en voyant la flush j'espère un showdown le moins chère possible
9: je suis dacore mais çà change pas que je me prend AA
8: je le mes sur un FD raté avec un Ax, il a un Af river de 50 je pense qu'il bluff ...
7: c'est un maniac, ça n'aurait pas changé l'issue de la main

20 : tres mauvais raisonnement, que vilain ait 77 ou A7 sur ce board ne change pas le fait que ton sizing soit trop faible

18: non, tu n'es pas pot commit, une simple paire ne va jamais transformer sa main en bluff en raisant river, donc ton AA vaut autant que midpair ici, et avec midpair tu b/f pas, tu c/c ou c/f

14: tres mauvais raisonnement! je vais prendre un bon exemple pour que tu comprennes: tu call 33 vs raise utg, flop A73r, utg cbet tu shove 100bb utg call AA tu perds
c'est sur ca reste un set up mais shove 100bb sur un cbet ce sera jamais un bon moove!
faire un minraise ici n'est pas l'idéal, qqsoit sa main, raise 12-13 turn

11: tu es dans un spot sqz, donc un spr encore plus faible que pot3b, donc des flush draws y'en a pas ou peu (arrete d'etre result oriented!)
le 3e ♠ n'est pas une bonne carte a c/c turn car un gros ♠ va ch behind pour voir river et ne vas pas float
sur une blank, ok pour c/c un air qui te float

9: mais arrete d'etre result oriented! pense aux autres fois ou il va call ton 4b et fold sur le flop pck qu'il aura rien touché, et ben tu auras perdu un peu de value!

8: meme avec un gros agg% les raise bluff sont en général rares
pars du principe que tout raise river est avec une tres grosse main, ton winrate va decoller!

7: pardon la 7 est ok, je parlais de la 6: 3b flop pour commit un draw

Ilares, YOU'RE THE F*** BOSS.