Hey,
Ik begin me nu toch echt af te vragen of de micro limieten wel uberhaupt profitable te spelen zijn. Mijn ervaring is dat dit gewoon niet mogelijk is. BRM? 50 bi is niet genoeg. Daarnaast moet je ook nog eens rake afdragen waardoor je profit op de lange termijn gewoon veel te weinig is.
Tuurlijk heb je wel eens een leuke winstreak en win je 30$ of 40$ maar de verliezen zijn meestal veel groter op de lange termijn.
Je kijkt wat artikelen, leert o.a. over potodds, cbets en equity. Je krijgt het geld erin en dan is het aan de software (die overigens niet rigged zou zijn) om je te beaten, keer op keer op keer op keer. Ik heb het niet over een paar zieke beats maar echt heel veel beats en setups. Wat stelt een paar azen nog voor op FullTilt?
Je moet soms uren wachten op een paar speelbare handen en dan krijg je wat om te spelen en dan ga je gewoon het schip in.
Ik laat wat voorbeelden zien en ik begin met de laatste hand.. zojuist nog gespeeld terwijl ik al aan dit bericht was begonnen. Ik zou er zo een video over kunnen maken en op youtube willen zetten. ![]()
$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($1.43) 72bb
UTG+1 ($1.72) 86bb
MP1 ($2.41) 121bb
tuffie (MP2) ($2.37) 119bb
MP3 ($1.66) 83bb
CO ($2) 100bb
BTN ($0.44) 22bb
SB ($1.49) 75bb
BB ($1.41) 71bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 9 players) tuffie is MP2 A♠ A♥
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, tuffie raises to $0.10, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB calls $0.08, MP1 calls $0.08
Flop: 7♦ 2♥ 5♣ ($0.41, 4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, tuffie bets $2.27, BTN calls $0.34, BB folds, MP1 folds
Turn: 4♣ ($1.09, 2 players)
River: K♠ ($1.09, 2 players)
Final Pot: $1.09
tuffie shows
A♠ A♥
BTN shows
7♥ K♥
tuffie wins $3.86 (net +$1.49)
BTN wins $1.04 (net +$0.60)
BB lost $0.10
MP1 lost $0.10
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$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($0.70) 35bb
UTG+1 ($1.93) 97bb
MP1 ($1.64) 82bb
MP2 ($1.50) 75bb
CO ($2.28) 114bb
BTN ($3.01) 151bb
SB ($1.48) 74bb
tuffie (BB) ($2.11) 106bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 8 players) tuffie is BB A♦ Q♣
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, tuffie raises to $0.08, MP2 calls $0.06, SB folds
Flop: 8♦ 10:club: A♠ ($0.18, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.12, MP2 calls $0.12
Turn: 5♦ ($0.42, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.29, MP2 calls $0.29
River: 8♥ ($1, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.70, MP2 goes all-in $1.01, tuffie calls $0.31
Final Pot: $3.02
tuffie shows
A♦ Q♣
MP2 shows
8♣ K♣
MP2 wins $2.87 (net +$1.37)
SB lost $0.02
tuffie lost $1.50
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$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($61.53) 246bb
UTG+1 ($5.65) 23bb
tuffie (CO) ($8.59) 34bb
BTN ($15.87) 63bb
SB ($5.52) 22bb
BB ($11.31) 45bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) tuffie is CO A♥ A♦
2 folds, tuffie raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold
Flop: 8♣ 8♠ Q♦ ($1.75, 2 players)
SB checks, tuffie bets $1.40, SB calls $1.40
Turn: 10:club: ($4.55, 2 players)
SB checks, tuffie bets $3.64, SB calls $3.37
River: K♠ ($11.29, 2 players)
Final Pot: $11.29
tuffie shows
A♥ A♦
SB shows
8♥ Q♠
SB wins $10.73 (net +$5.21)
tuffie collects $0.54 (net -$5.25)
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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($6.81) 136bb
tuffie (UTG+1) ($5.75) 115bb
CO ($2.50) 50bb
BTN ($9.10) 182bb
SB ($5.69) 114bb
BB ($2.01) 40bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) tuffie is UTG+1 A♠ A♣
1 fold, tuffie raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds
Flop: 4♥ K♦ 5♥ ($0.37, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25
Turn: Q♣ ($0.87, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60
River: Q♦ ($2.07, 2 players)
tuffie bets $1.30, CO goes all-in $1.50, tuffie calls $0.20
Final Pot: $5.07
tuffie shows
A♠ A♣
CO shows
4♣ 4♦
CO wins $4.82 (net +$2.32)
tuffie lost $2.50
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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($5.83) 58bb
UTG+1 ($10.32) 103bb
CO ($18.90) 189bb
BTN ($5.20) 52bb
SB ($12.84) 128bb
tuffie (BB) ($10) 100bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) tuffie is BB A♣ A♥
3 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, tuffie raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.30
Flop: K♠ 3♣ 9♥ ($0.85, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.59, BTN calls $0.59
Turn: 7♠ ($2.03, 2 players)
tuffie bets $1.42, BTN calls $1.42
River: 2♣ ($4.87, 2 players)
tuffie bets $2.80, BTN calls $2.79
Final Pot: $10.45
BTN shows
3♠ 3♥
tuffie shows
A♣ A♥
BTN wins $9.93 (net +$4.73)
tuffie collects $0.02 (net -$5.19)
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$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($4.71) 19bb
tuffie (UTG+1) ($19.34) 77bb
CO ($10) 40bb
BTN ($5.20) 21bb
SB ($16.79) 67bb
BB ($14.83) 59bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) tuffie is UTG+1 A♥ A♦
1 fold, tuffie raises to $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50
Flop: 4♣ 10:diamond: 8♥ ($2.25, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, tuffie bets $2.50, SB folds, BB goes all-in $14.08, tuffie calls $11.58
Turn: 7♠ ($30.41, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: 10:club: ($30.41, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $30.41
tuffie shows
A♥ A♦
BB shows
10:spade: J♦
BB wins $28.89 (net +$14.06)
tuffie lost $14.83
SB lost $0.75
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$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
tuffie (UTG) ($10.22) 41bb
CO ($21.41) 86bb
BTN ($9.65) 39bb
SB ($15.45) 62bb
BB ($11.21) 45bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 5 players) tuffie is UTG K♣ K♥
tuffie raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB raises to $1.75, tuffie goes all-in $10.22, BB calls $8.47
Flop: Q♠ 2♣ 3♥ ($20.54, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: 8♣ ($20.54, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: 10:heart: ($20.54, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $20.54
BB shows
A♥ A♦
tuffie shows
K♣ K♥
BB wins $19.52 (net +$9.30)
tuffie lost $10.22
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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($10.39) 104bb
tuffie (CO) ($11.56) 116bb
BTN ($10) 100bb
SB ($10) 100bb
BB ($10.60) 106bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 5 players) tuffie is CO J♠ J♥
1 fold, tuffie raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20
Flop: 8♣ 4♦ J♣ ($0.65, 2 players)
BB checks, tuffie bets $0.45, BB raises to $2.05, tuffie raises to $5.37, BB goes all-in $10.30, tuffie calls $4.93
Turn: 5♣ ($21.25, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: 9♥ ($21.25, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $21.25
BB shows
10:club: Q♥
tuffie shows
J♠ J♥
BB wins $20.19 (net +$9.59)
tuffie lost $10.60
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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($5.27) 105bb
UTG+1 ($5.07) 101bb
CO ($5) 100bb
tuffie (BTN) ($8.48) 170bb
SB ($5.29) 106bb
BB ($12.95) 259bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) tuffie is BTN 7♦ 7♠
UTG raises to $0.20, 2 folds, tuffie calls $0.20, 2 folds
Flop: J♠ 3♥ 4♠ ($0.47, 2 players)
UTG bets $0.25, tuffie raises to $0.50, UTG calls $0.25
Turn: 9♥ ($1.47, 2 players)
UTG checks, tuffie checks
River: 7♣ ($1.47, 2 players)
UTG checks, tuffie bets $1.02, UTG goes all-in $4.57, tuffie calls $3.55
Final Pot: $10.61
tuffie shows
7♦ 7♠
UTG shows
8♥ 10:heart:
UTG wins $10.08 (net +$4.81)
tuffie lost $5.27
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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($5.83) 58bb
UTG+1 ($10.32) 103bb
CO ($18.90) 189bb
BTN ($5.20) 52bb
SB ($12.84) 128bb
tuffie (BB) ($10) 100bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) tuffie is BB A♣ A♥
3 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, tuffie raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.30
Flop: K♠ 3♣ 9♥ ($0.85, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.59, BTN calls $0.59
Turn: 7♠ ($2.03, 2 players)
tuffie bets $1.42, BTN calls $1.42
River: 2♣ ($4.87, 2 players)
tuffie bets $2.80, BTN calls $2.79
Final Pot: $10.45
BTN shows
3♠ 3♥
tuffie shows
A♣ A♥
BTN wins $9.93 (net +$4.73)
tuffie collects $0.02 (net -$5.19)
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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($1.57) 16bb
CO ($12.18) 122bb
BTN ($5.74) 57bb
SB ($23.32) 233bb
tuffie (BB) ($12.94) 129bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 5 players) tuffie is BB 6♣ 7♣
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, tuffie checks
Flop: 6♦ 5♠ 2♦ ($0.35, 3 players)
tuffie bets $0.24, UTG calls $0.24, BTN calls $0.24
Turn: 7♠ ($1.07, 3 players)
tuffie bets $1.07, UTG calls $1.07, BTN calls $1.07
River: 5♣ ($4.28, 3 players)
tuffie bets $2.99, UTG calls $0.16, BTN calls $2.99
Final Pot: $10.42
UTG shows
Q♣ Q♦
BTN shows
K♦ 5♦
tuffie shows
6♣ 7♣
BTN wins $9.90 (net +$5.50)
UTG lost $1.57
tuffie lost $4.40
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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
tuffie (UTG) ($5.20) 104bb
CO ($5.42) 108bb
BTN ($6.91) 138bb
SB ($4.83) 97bb
BB ($5.75) 115bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) tuffie is UTG J♦ 10:club:
tuffie raises to $0.15, 2 folds, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10
Flop: J♥ K♣ 10:diamond: ($0.45, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.35, tuffie raises to $0.70, SB folds, BB raises to $2.55, tuffie goes all-in $5.05, BB calls $2.50
Turn: Q♣ ($10.55, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: 4♣ ($10.55, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $10.55
tuffie shows
J♦ 10:club:
BB shows
A♥ Q♠
BB wins $10.03 (net +$4.83)
tuffie lost $5.20
SB lost $0.15
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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($5) 100bb
tuffie (UTG+1) ($21.55) 431bb
CO ($2.32) 46bb
BTN ($9.35) 187bb
SB ($1.40) 28bb
BB ($4.36) 87bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) tuffie is UTG+1 Q♦ Q♣
1 fold, tuffie raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds
Flop: 4♠ 6♣ 7♣ ($0.37, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25
Turn: 8♥ ($0.87, 2 players)
tuffie bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60
River: 7♦ ($2.07, 2 players)
tuffie bets $1.44, CO calls $1.32
Final Pot: $4.71
tuffie shows
Q♦ Q♣
CO shows
5♥ 4♥
CO wins $4.48 (net +$2.16)
tuffie collects $0.24 (net -$2.20)
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$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($21.09) 84bb
UTG+1 ($14.82) 59bb
CO ($10.05) 40bb
tuffie (BTN) ($11.56) 46bb
SB ($12.71) 51bb
BB ($60.52) 242bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) tuffie is BTN K♦ K♣
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, tuffie raises to $2.25, 1 fold, BB calls $2, UTG+1 goes all-in $14.82, tuffie calls $9.31, BB folds
Flop: J♦ 2♣ 2♦ ($25.47, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: Q♣ ($25.47, 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: Q♠ ($25.47, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $25.47
UTG+1 shows
Q♥ Q♦
tuffie shows
K♦ K♣
UTG+1 wins $30.72 (net +$15.90)
BB lost $2.25
tuffie lost $11.56
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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
tuffie (UTG) ($2) 40bb
CO ($2.27) 45bb
BTN ($1.59) 32bb
SB ($0.94) 19bb
BB ($1.56) 31bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) tuffie is UTG Q♥ Q♣
tuffie raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10
Flop: 9♠ 4♥ 6♣ ($0.62, 4 players)
BB checks, tuffie bets $0.43, CO calls $0.43, 1 fold, BB folds
Turn: 5♥ ($1.48, 2 players)
tuffie bets $1, CO goes all-in $1.69, tuffie calls $0.42
River: A♦ ($4.32, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $4.32
CO shows
6♠ A♣
tuffie shows
Q♥ Q♣
CO wins $4.65 (net +$2.38)
BB collects $0.00 (net -$0.15)
BTN lost $0.15
tuffie lost $2
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$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($15.83) 63bb
UTG+1 ($6.92) 28bb
tuffie (CO) ($34.27) 137bb
BTN ($13.66) 55bb
SB ($4.75) 19bb
BB ($27.38) 110bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) tuffie is CO K♦ K♣
2 folds, tuffie raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2.25, 2 folds, tuffie raises to $6, BTN calls $3.75
Flop: 3♠ 8♥ 10:diamond: ($12.35, 2 players)
tuffie bets $8.64, BTN calls $7.66
Turn: Q♠ ($27.67, 2 players)
River: 10:heart: ($27.67, 2 players)
Final Pot: $27.67
tuffie shows
K♦ K♣
BTN shows
Q♥ Q♣
BTN wins $26.29 (net +$12.63)
tuffie collects $1.96 (net -$12.68)
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$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($22.81) 91bb
CO ($5.50) 22bb
tuffie (BTN) ($11.65) 47bb
SB ($8.75) 35bb
BB ($10) 40bb
Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 5 players) tuffie is BTN Q♥ Q♠
UTG raises to $0.50, 1 fold, tuffie raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50
Flop: 8♦ 9♣ 5♣ ($4.35, 2 players)
UTG bets $20.81, tuffie calls $9.65
Turn: A♣ ($23.65, 2 players)
River: 8♣ ($23.65, 2 players)
Final Pot: $23.65
UTG shows
J♠ J♣
tuffie shows
Q♥ Q♠
UTG wins $44.79 (net +$21.98)
tuffie lost $11.65
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Ik kan zo nog wel een paar honderd handen verder gaan.
Al die tijd die erin gestoken is, het is het allemaal niet waard volgens mij. Ik begrijp dat je niet alle handen kunt winnen zodra mijn equity op bv. 86% uitkomt dan verlies ik de hand te vaak of ik krijg niet genoeg afbetaald.
Ik vindt het niet zo heel raar dat spelers gaan denken dat online poker rigged is. Het lijkt zelfs op de grootste scam die er bestaat waarbij de slager zijn eigen keurmeesters betaald om te bewijzen dat online poker niet rigged is maar volledig random. ![]()
Ik heb op verschillende pokerrooms gespeeld maar het is eigenlijk over hetzelfde. Je wint een leuke reeks en daarna betaal je dik en meer dan dubbel terug aan een zogenaamde downswing.
Wees voorzichtig met online poker!