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Also alles was ich über Overcards weiss sind 2 Sachen (gilt besonders für AKs):
- wenn man seine Outs bekommt gewinnt man mit seeeehhhhhhr hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit, in dem Fall der Beispielhand sogar 100%, naja, es sei denn es kommt herz 3 oder herz 9, dann gewinnt man nur in 80%... -___-
- wenn man eine der Overcards auf den späteren Strassen paired ist ein Gegner besser als 2

Dass sind imo genug Gründe für bet, sogar wenn es nicht for value ist, was es aber IMO ist. Warum denkst du, das bet nicht for value ist, Hotte?


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Wenns mal immer so laufen würde ...

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K♦, K♣.
Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG+2 3-bets, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB caps, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 4♦, 7♣, J♠ (4 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 3-bets, MP3 caps, BB folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (14.75 BB) Q♠ (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 caps, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (26.75 BB) K♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 32.75 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Kc (three of a kind, kings).
UTG+2 has Jh Jc (three of a kind, jacks).
MP3 has 4h 4c (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Hero wins 32.75 BB.


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dass hat sich ja mal richtig fett gelohnt ^^


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PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: KRE is BB with K♠, K♣.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, KRE raises, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) 4♠, 8♠, J♣ (6 players)
KRE checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, KRE raises, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO 3-bets, KRE calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (11.20 BB) 9♦ (3 players)
KRE checks, UTG checks, CO bets, KRE raises, UTG calls, CO calls.

River: (17.20 BB) 3♦ (3 players)
KRE bets, UTG calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 20.20 BB

Results in white below:
KRE has Ks Kc (one pair, kings).
UTG has Ac Jd (one pair, jacks).
CO has Js Ts (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: KRE wins 20.20 BB.

und gleich die Hand darauf:
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: KRE is SB with J♣, K♣.
4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, KRE raises, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K♥, K♠, J♥ (3 players)
KRE checks, BB checks, MP3 bets, KRE calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) T♦ (2 players)
KRE checks, MP3 bets, KRE raises, MP3 calls.

River: (8 BB) A♠ (2 players)
KRE bets, MP3 raises, KRE 3-bets, MP3 caps, KRE calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB

Results in white below:
MP3 has 2h Qh (straight, ace high).
KRE has Jc Kc (full house, kings full of jacks).
Outcome: KRE wins 16 BB.

warum läuft das nich immer so? xD hehe


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Und wegen wünschen ausm irc:

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: KRE is UTG+1 with K♣, K♦.
1 fold, KRE raises, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) J♦, K♠, K♥ (3 players)
SB checks, KRE checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J♥ (3 players)
SB checks, KRE bets, MP1 calls, SB calls.

River: (6.50 BB) J♣ (3 players)
SB checks, KRE bets, MP1 calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Results in white below:
KRE has Kc Kd (four of a kind, kings).
MP1 has Qs Qd (full house, jacks full of kings).
Outcome: KRE wins 8.50 BB.


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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♥, A♦.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9♣, 7♣, A♠ (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A♣ (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (15 BB) 3♠ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Juhu mein erster 4oak :)


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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: SUPERSPIELER1 is BB with Q♥, Q♣. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, 3 folds, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, SB calls, SUPERSPIELER1 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (15 SB) Q♦, Q♠, A♣ (5 players)
SB checks, SUPERSPIELER1 checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Button bets, SB calls, SUPERSPIELER1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO folds.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 2♠ (4 players)
SB checks, SUPERSPIELER1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Button bets, SB calls, SUPERSPIELER1 raises, UTG+2 folds, Button 3-bets, SB calls, SUPERSPIELER1 caps, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (21.50 BB) 2♥ (3 players)
SB checks, SUPERSPIELER1 bets, Button calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

;)


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FleischWesen
Beigetreten: 15.01.2005

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7♠, 7♦.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (18 SB) 6♠, 7♣, 4♠ (9 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (19.50 BB) 3♣ (7 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (26.50 BB) 3♠ (7 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, CO folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 40.50 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 4c 4h (full house, fours full of threes).
MP2 has 8c 8h (two pair, eights and threes).
Hero has 7s 7d (full house, sevens full of threes).
SB has 5c 4d (straight, seven high).
Outcome: Hero wins 40.50 BB.


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Nice Pot ... Aber, Raise Turn?


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FleischWesen
Beigetreten: 15.01.2005

hatte sehr grosse straight angst bei der horde an raisern und callern am flop, flushdraws hätte ich wohl auch net zum folden bewegt bei dem dicken pot. Oder war das völlig falsches angsthasenpoker von mir ?


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Rifter
Beigetreten: 16.01.2005

ja klar war das falsch. du musst die leute für ihre draws zahlen lassen. ausserdem hast du vermutlich die beste hand und mega viele outs gegen flush/straight.
wann willlst du raisen wenn nicht hier?
das ist immerhin _topset_


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FleischWesen
Beigetreten: 15.01.2005

überzeugt :)


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Mein zweiter ...

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♠, T♠.
UTG calls, 6 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) Q♥, 2♦, Q♠ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) A♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (4.50 BB) K♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Js Ts (straight flush, ace high).
BB has 3h Qc (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 6.50 BB.


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Rifter
Beigetreten: 16.01.2005

grats aber warum bet flop?


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pKay
Beigetreten: 21.01.2005

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T♦, A♣. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 7♥, Q♠, T♥ (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) T♠ (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, Button calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (27.50 BB) 9♠ (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, Button calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 33.50 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Tc As (three of a kind, tens).
Hero has Td Ac (three of a kind, tens).
MP2 has Qh Qc (full house, queens full of tens).
Button has Ks Qd (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: MP2 wins 33.50 BB.

Leider nicht mein pott t.t


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Original von Rifter
grats aber warum bet flop?

Purer Bluff gegen eher weak tight Gegner ...

Edit: Und nettes Anchauungsmaterial, warum man Trips nicht slowplayen soll ... ;)


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Lustige Vorgeschichte.
Der Typ mit dem Full House hat eine richtig grosse klappe gehabt und die Hand davor musste er ja AA slowplayen und damit am River raisen, ich hab gecalled und halt verloren. Er meinte dann "Gegen so Fische wie dich slowplayen bringt mir das meiste Geld"

Am Flop meinte er dann "Ich hab dich wieder du Fisch"
Ich dachte dann natürlich, dass er QT oder TT haben muss, was ja auch stimmte ^^

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K♥, Q♦.
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) Q♠, T♠, Q♥ (4 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, MP3 calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) Q♣ (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, BB raises, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (18.25 BB) 8♣ (4 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, MP3 folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 23.25 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Td Tc (full house, queens full of tens).
Hero has Kh Qd (four of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 23.25 BB.

Der Pot ist zwar nicht so gross, aber moralischer war das mein beste Good Beat bisjetzt ^^

Das hat so gut getan ^^


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UBPlayer
Beigetreten: 15.01.2005

ich haett noch 3-bet turn ;)


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Original von UBPlayer
ich haett noch 3-bet turn ;)

Das problem ist mp3 und UTG waren sehr passiv und sind immer sofort raus bei nem Anzeichen von gefahr.
Also hab ich noch ihre 2 BB eingesammelt und gehofft, dass sie am river nicht mehr rausgehen würden, weil es zu spät ist.

Ausserdem hätte ich dann river nicht raisen können, weil BB nach 3 Bet Turn bestimmt auch check/call umgeschaltet hätte.

mfg


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Brockie
Beigetreten: 16.01.2005

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Brockie is MP3 with A♠, A♣.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises, 1 fold, Brockie 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 caps, Brockie calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) 2♠, 4♦, 2♦ (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Brockie raises, Button calls, UTG+1 3-bets, MP1 caps, Brockie calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (16.75 BB) A♥ (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Brockie bets, Button calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, Brockie 3-bets, Button calls, UTG+1 caps, MP1 calls, Brockie calls, Button calls.

River: (32.75 BB) Q♣ (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Brockie bets, Button folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 35.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 2h Js (three of a kind, twos).
MP1 has 8s 7s (one pair, twos).
Brockie has As Ac (full house, aces full of twos).
Outcome: Brockie wins 35.75 BB.


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