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chriskwns
Joined: 07.10.2012

Villain is 1-table unk. Would you raise higher on the flop ? What do you think about turn ? It's either fold or shove ... ?

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2907122
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Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $3.12
BB: $9.28
UTG: $5.48
MP: $5.05
CO: $5.53

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with Q :club: K :club:
UTG raises to $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.36, SB calls $0.34, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.26

Flop: ($1.13) K :heart: T :diamond: 7 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.70, SB folds, UTG calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.53) Q :spade: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.46, UTG raises to $2.92, Hero ... ?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Very difficult to say what is the correct move as played. There is some things I would change this hand. First this would be a standard call for me vs UTG without proper info on him. Then I don't see any reason to raise the flop? As played, flip a coin and decide between fold and shove.


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chriskwns
Joined: 07.10.2012

It is a standard call for me but he is playing only 1 table thus he might be fishy and he opens for 2bb from UTG, that is why I 3bet. Raising that flop because it's a MW pot, flop is really drawy and he donk bets 1/3 which very often will be a draw thus I dont want to give away a free cards.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

When villain donks multiway he can have pretty much anything. Still there are many better hands possible and you have to remember that SB is in the pot too. He can easily hold a set or 2pair. Imo by raising you will isolate yourself against a strong range.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i
Very difficult to say what is the correct move as played. There is some things I would change this hand. First this would be a standard call for me vs UTG without proper info on him. Then I don't see any reason to raise the flop? As played, flip a coin and decide between fold and shove.

Very easy answer - Do not raise and do not make pot bigger.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i
When villain donks multiway he can have pretty much anything. Still there are many better hands possible and you have to remember that SB is in the pot too. He can easily hold a set or 2pair. Imo by raising you will isolate yourself against a strong range.

Agree. No raising. Give him a chance to bluff you.


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

i would raise otf, but i would raise larger vs this guy like at least 3x...i dont think we acomplish much by raising 2.5x..as played and line he took that includes min raising ott if we shove i think we will overplay our hand..and we are not good here most of the time


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chriskwns
Joined: 07.10.2012

Tinsley15

i would raise otf, but i would raise larger vs this guy like at least 3x...i dont think we acomplish much by raising 2.5x..

I agree, if he has a draw, raising him that low still gives him great pot odds to call. If he reraises then it's easy fold.

nitrol

Agree. No raising. Give him a chance to bluff you.

I got no info on him but still, how often would You expect him to donk bet like that with some pure bluff ? And if it's mostly some semi-bluff draw then why would I let him see another card so cheaply ? There are dozens of bad turns for me. Once I face further aggression either from UTG or SB then I just fold.

If he might have draws like that, then he's got quite a bit of equity and by donking that low and me not raising, I'm letting him play perfectly not getting any value.


Board: T♦K♥7♥
       Equity   Win   Tie
MP2    37.06%   36.56%    0.50% { AhQh, KhQh, AhJh, KhJh, QhJh, AhTh, KhTh, QhTh, JhTh, Ah9h, Kh9h, Qh9h, Jh9h, Th9h, Ah8h, Jh8h, Th8h, 9h8h, Ah7h, 9h7h, 8h7h, Ah6h, 8h6h, 7h6h, Ah5h, 6h5h, Ah4h, 5h4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KJo, QJo, J9o }
MP3    62.94%   62.43%    0.50% { KcQc }

When I give him sets and 2 pairs then it's close to coinflip. But I still think raising is good as if he has a set, he's probably going for a reraise and as I mentioned, it makes it easy for me to fold, and if he has a draw then most likely he will just call and I get most value out of that part of his range. Just for the record, if the flop would have been something like K♥:7♦:2♠: - obviously I dont raise.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I meant that with raising you will narrow his range.
He can have bluffs too.


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