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playing combo draw aggro vs utg

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briccius
Joined: 26.06.2007

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 231.6 BB (VPIP: 10.84, PFR: 7.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
SB: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 4.55, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
Hero (BB): 241.6 BB
UTG: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 34.38, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 34)
MP: 165.6 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 156.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 30.56, 3Bet Preflop: 35.29, Hands: 36)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♣ 9♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.4 BB, 3 players) 3♣ J♦ Q♣
Hero checks, UTG bets 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 17 BB, UTG calls 13 BB

Turn: (43.4 BB, 2 players) 2♠
Hero bets 150 BB, UTG calls 82.8 BB and is all-in

River: (209 BB, 2 players) Q♥

Hero shows T♣ 9♣ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 21%, Flop 46%, Turn 30%)
UTG shows K♣ K♥ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 79%, Flop 54%, Turn 70%)
UTG wins 200.4 BB

Do you think the turn overshove increases my fold equity or looks more like a draw and might even decrease it vs some opponents? Also, maybe it is less advisable to play a draw so aggro against a strong utg range.

What line would you recommend in this spot? Check-call twice?

Thank you.


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

Originally posted by briccius

What line would you recommend in this spot? Check-call twice?

Flop
I like your line on the flop and THIS is the street whee you want to go broke with this hand.
If you go all in on the flop you have 54% chance to make your hand so it is in your best interest to get as much money into the pot as possible=>nice raise on the flop.

Turn
Why do you decide to go all in here ?
You still have 32.6% chance to hit your draw on the river so check/call is the best line i think here.
You can call any bet OTT that is less than 75% pot bet.


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lfcmichael
Joined: 30.10.2016

Yeah, I agree with this. Getting AI on the flop with a combo draw usually makes you a slight favourite and that’s before considering fold equity.

By the turn, we’re no longer a favourite to complete a draw. Check-call is probably better than a small bet, as we don’t want to face a raise if we bet, and we probably have no fold equity here.


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briccius
Joined: 26.06.2007

Thank you guys. I like the line x/r flop, x/c turn, but I think betting turn can´t be too bad since we probably do have some fold equity, however small, against villain´s range, and here with the effective SPR, we are commited anyway after a shove by villain. That was also my incentive for shoving right away: my reasoning was if I do bet, I have to call a raise anyway, so why not overbet-shove and maximise my FE.

But I still like the low-variance play check-call OTT. There is one upside to the aggro play, though: we might fold out some draws that dominate us, like AcKc or a random KTs (if it is in villain´s utg range). But AcKc he will most likely reshove OTF, so it is not even in his range OTT very often, and if he has it, he might still call OTT anyway. He might still have AdKd OTT and be forced to fold it.

There might be a problem if we check turn: it kind of turns our hand face up and villain can easily make a bet big enough to price us out (which is not the worst thing in the world, as we just fold). Which line has the highest EV really hinges on how much fold equity we can generate with a turn bet in my opinion.

By the way, of course I can make my flop raise an AI right away. That is of course an easy and profitable way to play the hand. I am not sure it is going to be the one with the highest EV, though.


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