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600nl we 4bet flop and jam turn for no reason

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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

I think I messed up this hand.

Thoughts on turn? Will post thoughts after

€3/€6 No Limit Holdem
Prima
4 Players
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Stacks:
CO Player3 (€1,277) 213bb
BTN Player4 (€724) 121bb
SB Player6 (€2,106.47) 351bb
BB pleno1 (€734.49) 122bb

Pre-Flop: (€9, 4 players) pleno1 is BB A♠ 6♠
1 fold, Player4 raises to €12, 1 fold, pleno1 calls €6

Flop: 2♠ 4♣ 5♠ (€27, 2 players)
pleno1 checks, Player4 bets €16, pleno1 raises to €60, Player4 raises to €130, pleno1 raises to €231, Player4 calls €101

Turn: J♦ (€489, 2 players)
pleno1 bets €491.49 (all in)


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My initial reaction is to either flat the flop 3b or 4b it bigger.

As played I don't hate it although he's not folding much here


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Originally posted by FeelMeFlow

he's not folding much here

Except his air


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Doubt he has much air but he will have some random 3s, 67, lower fds which will fold which is why I don't hate the shove. I'm just saying I think he's snapping here with over pairs and made hands more than he's folding


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Interesting hand. If you think he can have air here its probably better to check/shove on the turn. If he floated he is most likely going to bet 1/4 pot on turn.


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Originally posted by GVVFR15
Interesting hand. If you think he can have air here its probably better to check/shove on the turn. If he floated he is most likely going to bet 1/4 pot on turn.

If he has some kind of gutshot or hand with small equity vs the top of my range do you think he takes he 1/4 pot or jam line? There is a pot sized bet left btw.


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imfromsweden007
Joined: 11.10.2008

Hmm I think you played it OK tbh, I don't really like shoving/raising bigger over his flop 3bet. I would only flat his 3bet vs nits who only do this with sets/straights.

As played I would also shove.


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getdotacom
Joined: 06.04.2008

Don't know much about your preflop ranges, but can u have sets here ? I've called down with Ahi in villains shoes in these spots and it's fd 99% of the time, won't be surprised to see ATo :P

As played, c/c turn could be better IMO. We make him fold only hands we beat, something like 87 or super weak fds, so I can't see point in betting. Also don't mind seeing free card, sometimes villain could showdown some weak pair which saves us a lot of money and it's unlikely he's checking back any air on the turn, so we won't be bluffed off our hand on the river.


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