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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($529)
Hero ($203)
UTG ($206)
UTG+1 ($473)
CO ($199)
BTN ($206)

Dealt to Hero 8♦ 7♦

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $4, fold, Hero calls $2

FLOP ($9) 2♥ 9♠ 4♦

Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero calls $6

TURN ($21) 2♥ 9♠ 4♦ T♥

Hero checks, BTN bets $16, Hero raises to $42, BTN calls $26

RIVER ($105) 2♥ 9♠ 4♦ T♥ 7♠

Hero checks, BTN bets $50, Hero folds

BTN wins $102

villain: 26/20
3.6 AF
75% cbet flop, 60% turn (44), 69% river (13)
1.8k hands
no relevant reads.

I have a bit of trouble playing against these barrelhappy guys.

What would be a good a plan for the hand here? I guess there is not much of a point in raising the flop as he will put a lot of money in the pot (with a weak range) OTT and OTR very often.

But what cards do we want to play back at? And would it be even better to delay the action until the river, even oop?

And when raised and called, like in this hand, should we fire river on any particular cards, like if the flush gets there?


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ilares
Joined: 25.10.2009

well c/c flop is bad, go c/r or fold

if you c/r the turn go 48 or 50 and shove a lot of turns like , A, K and 6 and J obviously


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ttjjboy
Joined: 31.05.2009

people can easily barrel turn with a hand or air
if i call flop probably i'm gonna raise any turn


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

bump


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

fold Flop - I hate floating backdoors on low boards but it's ok to do so OOP when board is high because Turns and Rivers cannot change the board too much. I don't checkraise Flop unless I have a well balanced range on dry flops (you could do it sometimes with sets, overpairs, TPTK for balance but I generally prefer to slowplay all those so I just don't ever checkraise dry Flops unless they have high fold to checkraise %)

checkraise Turn + shove river as played

Just rep the nuts and hope that he folds his overpairs. If he catches you, so be it. Your image may help you get paid off in future.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

I am just speculating here, but I think in a way these lowboards may be more suitable for floating against this type of villain.

He barrels with a high frequency ott and otr, and he will with most likelyhood follow through on both streets if an overcard comes ott with the majority of his range. So in that sense we should be able to take the pot down fairly often on either street.

It will an expensive bluff/semibluff but should still yield the highest profit I believe.

Maybe we can c/c flop and c/r turn on any Jx+, any diamond that is not J+, Tx, 6x. And then c/c turn on all Jd+ and try to go for the c/r on any rivercard. The downside with that line would just obv be that the times when we miss the river and he checks back it obv sucks. But assuming he doesn't chrck back many % otr should still make it pretty profitable.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello axelphoney,

If he barrels a lot of turn cards then the main plan should be the play as you did, though you can't represent that much either in those spots so I doubt that he is willing to lay down many pairs anyways vs your line. Which even is kinda weak on the turn with the Check/Raise size. Don't see you doing this with strong hands, rather would go for a bigger one.

Therefore I'd rather spend the Check/Raise money on the flop whilst I have a lot of barrel cards and even triple-barrel spots. Though that also depends on the hero's image, what kind of player are we against and if he is capable of understanding the board reading and etc. How much he is willing to go to showdown so on.

Best Regards.


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If he is barrelhappy then why not just resteal? :)


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Originally posted by Farmarchist
If he is barrelhappy then why not just resteal? :)
And what's the purpose of it? Most likely players on those limits ain't really fold happy, whilst our hand has huge implied odds.


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