MS:22 10E DEEP 3plebluff barell

Well K6o has a rather bad playability post flop imho. The min raise was a bit unnecessary, a bit of a block bet, but no hand you'd defend against a 3bet anyways, so with a limp you might have seen the flop cheaper. The good thing from the mainraise is that Villain called you, so to him it was worth that much seeing the flop. That might be a hint that his hand was not total trash.

On the flop i don't like the bet. I know a c-bet can be used to isolate against weaker hands, but even though you have TPTK it's a bit weak on such a board, so it would have been cheaper to enjoy a free card. What weaker hands do you see in his range here? Turn and river are pretty scary cards for you - you couldn't get Villain to fold on the turn either, so why do you think you can on the river? I have seen good bluffs, but this is not one of them.

@Fronzelneekburm what the hell men? Yout theory is so tight. This ir 6max table and hero told, that table was tight.
Preflop open is good, also flop c-bet is good. I belvieve also turn bet is fine. On river there is no point to bet.

thx martin, what if river come A and oponent check ?

I think, that we ch/ch all rivers expect K or 6. No point of betting if the opp is calling F,T, then he will call R anyway.

Originally posted by MartinsStraupmanis
@Fronzelneekburm what the hell men? Yout theory is so tight. This ir 6max table and hero told, that table was tight.
Preflop open is good, also flop c-bet is good. I belvieve also turn bet is fine. On river there is no point to bet.

As you said, the table was tight, so expect opponents to have rather good pocket cards. From his stack and position i see no need to steal blinds here and the minraise does not isolate you against many hands from a tight range.

On the flop you can already expect Villain to check/call, since it's rainbow and so dry. You're behind for any pocket pair villain may hold besides 44 and 55. You hold a pair of sixes with King kicker. Is that really great against a tight player who already called your first raise? I see the raise size also critical, not even half pot does not give villain much to fold. Yeah, most people would say "for value", but i can't see much value nor a great hand here. Then on the turn we bet again and again less then half pot size. that look rather desperate then strong to me. Aight, for information purposes pretty good because now we know he won't fold and see the river. This time at least half pot, but with being certain that we are now beaten by virtually any pocket pair and all Qx and Jx combinations which is not too few. So honestly, which combinations do you see for a tight player that did not defeat us here? I can only think of AK.

If you wanna play agressive then you have to raise higher, if you want villain to fold halfway nice cards by bluffing then you need to act earlier. If you already have kinda "loose" image on the table then tight players will call you with premium pocket cards. If you don't hit something good on the flop (And i don't consider 66 as "good") then you have 2 realistic options against tight players - Push (very risky, wouldn't do it here) or raise high, pot size. In the end a pot size bet would have been cheaper then feeding the pot constantly. if they call the pot size bet you know you're beat (That info is quite valuable), if they fold you make profit.

Can play like this, no doubt, but you'll often run into sets, draws or at least high pocket pairs against tight players, so I'd try to avoid such situations with such a comfortable stack.

if you have really good stats on villain you can exploit him much more. If you see he often folds to a cbet, then do the cbet. if he 3bets and you see he most likely folds to 4bet then just 4bet him. But since no stats were given and the table was just described as "tight" i stand to my opinion, take it or leave it. I just wanna say that i personally don't throw money at tight people if my hand is "rather weak"...

You are right Fronze..... i am deep so i don´t need steel with K6o. .... On turn i bet to fold better cards then my like pairs 77-99 maybe TT, you are right that i need cbeting 1/2+pot if i want to my opponent fold in this spot. River I should give up.

Hey!

I fold k6 here.. that def. not a standard steal even from a lag. Suited would be alright. As played -> why do you wanna 2nd barrel? he is not folding a midpair, he can peel with some qx hands...
So is this 2nd barrel for value or why do you bluff with showdown value?

Im not even sure if we should bet flop. check behind could be awesome -> you induce a lot of bluffs on the turn and you normally have really good equity!

This 3barrel bluff with sd-value on that boardrun is pretty bad after he calls turn!

Greets,
Tiltberger

Originally posted by Tiltberger
Hey!

I fold k6 here.. that def. not a standard steal even from a lag. Suited would be alright. As played -> why do you wanna 2nd barrel? he is not folding a midpair, he can peel with some qx hands...
So is this 2nd barrel for value or why do you bluff with showdown value?

Im not even sure if we should bet flop. check behind could be awesome -> you induce a lot of bluffs on the turn and you normally have really good equity!

This 3barrel bluff with sd-value on that boardrun is not optimal imo!

Greets,
Tiltberger