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AJ call3bet vs xc range, triple barrel?

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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $63.14 (252.6 bb)
UTG+1: $29.96 (119.8 bb)
UTG+2: $26.93 (107.7 bb)
MP1: $36.15 (144.6 bb)
MP2: $9.18 (36.7 bb)
MP3: $63.23 (252.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $25.96 (103.8 bb)
BTN: $48.76 (195 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, BTN folds, SB raises to $2.21, BB folds, Hero calls $1.59

Flop: ($4.67) 6 9 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3

Turn: ($10.67) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB calls $6.50

River: ($23.67) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14.25 and is all-in

15/11 in 14kh
Rstl sb 10%, rstl gral 13% , 25% vs hero, fold to 4b 63
cb flop 3b pot 64%, turn 19%
check fold flop 73, turn 63
wtsd 24, wwsf 42, w$sd 57
fold to cb flop 64, turn 27, fold to river bet 61

i think that when he check call the flop he has some A3s, 76s, 97s, 98s, A6s, T9s, A8s, 77-88 and may be TT cause he is cbetting a lot in 3b pot so i think his range is face up to than hands

do u think is a good asumption?

assuming that, 3barrel this runout is fine? he is only calling river with TT and T9s prolly

kind regards


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IPtkv
Joined: 30.08.2011
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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

yeah

i assign him this check calling range

ott i think he is calling with practicaly the same, maybe he folds 76s

and on the river i expect him to fold anything except T9s and TT (if he not cbets that hands otf .. i dont know, but if he does then the river F.E increases)

so in the turn he has 25 combos, and otr if he is only calling with T9s and TT he is folding 16 combos so i have enough F.E

if he is calling with 98s then i have 50% of F.E


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IPtkv
Joined: 30.08.2011
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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

Originally posted by IPtkv
He has wtsd 24 and w$sd 57 is that 14K hands?

yep

Originally posted by IPtkv
He should be calling here only with T9 and TT so for sure shove on the river.

i think that this type of player will only call with that hands, im assuming that he will not bluffcatch vs hero cause we dont have history and im not a really agressive player

Originally posted by IPtkv
Did he called you with 89s?

I want a few more toughts and then i will publish the results :f_thumbsup:


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IPtkv
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GoOnCal1
Joined: 22.01.2015

Lols, " I am not really an aggressive player "
:-)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

When I guy that x/f flop 73% calls, this should tell you to stop betting more.Maybe he has some weak holding that cought up along the way and now has a pair. Even AK beat you.


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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
When I guy that x/f flop 73% calls, this should tell you to stop betting more.Maybe he has some weak holding that cought up along the way and now has a pair. Even AK beat you.

u cant only see the HUD and ignore the action and the board texture..

wich strong hands do u think he is check calling here? QQ-AA? that would bet pretty weird, and if he does .. well, i would take a note and addapt to him

but readless im assuming that a xcalling range in a drawy low board on 3b pot is a weak range

i agree with u that he has something when he calls, but i expect that any villain will xf a lot on that flop, but still have a lot of weak hands on his xcalling range

what do u think?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I am talking about the turn. The flop is obvious - he checks, you bet and try to take the pot.
When he called your flop bet, you should take a look around. OOP 3 bet ranges are full of low SCs and low PPs.


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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
IOOP 3 bet ranges are full of low SCs and low PPs.

Yep, that's why I think 3barrels is good


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

If it is so good why do you bother about this hand? :)


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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

That's only my opinion! I want to see more :)


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excitedpoker
Joined: 12.08.2010

Oh man he looks like a really bad reg, why the hell would he ~4x his 3bet in LP? I really doubt he does that when restealling as a bluff. Looking at his sizing and his postflop line i really could put him on QQ+. If you think he is able to fold that OTR maybe 3barells are fine but i highly doubt he does. What are the results?


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GoOnCal1
Joined: 22.01.2015

Originally posted by IPtkv
Maybe it depends a lot of recent history between both of you.

Can we know more please ?
25% re-steal vs hero !
What is net dollars won hero vs villain?
Is there a prize for guessing the result ? I tend to read the villain plays as indicated by @excited. 3bet is bit bigger pre-flop. post flop x/c, x/c fit profile of a monster being slow played. In this case you know the answer because he doesn't fold an over-pair on the river.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

how come you have no reads after so many hands?

without them this is too loose I'd without any blockers


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by marcosmartinez

Originally posted by nitrol
IOOP 3 bet ranges are full of low SCs and low PPs.

Yep, that's why I think 3barrels is good

It is not the right hand and situation to run this.


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marcosmartinez
Joined: 03.07.2013

Hi guys

I think villains at this stake are really straightforward so i assume that he is betting QQ+ here.

He cbets 66 on 3b pots and he xf a lots.. if he slowplay some hands he would have lower cb and xf stats

Lemon, blockers of wich hands? Wich.hands are better to bluff here? QJ ? I dont see another hand that potentially blocks his strong part of xcalling range
Thanks!


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nice


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

if villian is x/f alot then maybe we can half pot flop? as if he is playing straight forward perhaps his calling/fold range is inelastic

if villian is a little more balanced i prefer a delayed cbet

When we think about overall range I think we got some better candidates to barrel off, and maybe ones with marginally less showdown value, for example KQs with no A showdown but a BDSD but it's probably close either way and interesting to think about which hands we pick and we can't barrell off here based on the runout vs really solid opponents

Because it's difficult for villian to have a strong hand unless he traps and seems like he is exploitable to 3barrells then meh yeah, but also i think i prefer delayed cbet with plan to delayed double barrell on good rivers was better and lower risk for us across 2 streets


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