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AKs in SB

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Stevie8
Joined: 24.06.2012

Hand Information
Full Tilt Poker , 0.25 BB (4 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 1 Player 1 ($75.97) Dealer
Seat: 2 Hero ($35.51) Small Blind
Seat: 3 Player 3 ($25) Big Blind
Seat: 6 Player 6 ($30.4)
Dealt to Hero
K♥A♥

Preflop (Pot:0.35)
Player 6    RAISE $0.75
Player 1    FOLD
Hero    CALL $0.65
Player 3    FOLD

Flop(Pot: $1.75)
K♠2♦5♥

Hero    CHECK
Player 6    BET $0.75
Hero    CALL $0.75

Turn(Pot: $3.25)
K♠2♦5♥Q♠

Hero    CHECK
Player 6    BET $2
Hero    CALL $2

River(Pot: $7.25)
K♠2♦5♥Q♠4♥

Hero    CHECK
Player 6    BET $4
Hero    FOLD
Player 6    RETURN $4
Showdown:
Player 6 MUCKS

Player 6  wins the pot: $11.25

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Villain plays 21/16 with aggression factor of 1.9

I decide to call instead of 3bet in order to keep his dominated range in play.
I thought that by playing passively I would disguise my hand and make him pay me off with weaker big pairs.
His continuation bet rates are 62/37/25 (flop/turn/river). So by having him 3 barreling here I consider that he had me beat on the river. But the main issue I guess is my overall approach of how to play this hand.


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

How many hands do you have for villain?


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

I think it´s OK. I don´t believe you will be good enough time on the river. If the sample size is big enough, then x/f R is clear.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

In order to watch the aggr stats it is good to know the size of the hand sample.
Some players call, some fold in such spots.
I think calling is not too bad with TPTK.


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Stevie8
Joined: 24.06.2012

3k sample size


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

For this sample I look also at his fold / call 3 bet stats, 4bet. How much he steals from CO?


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

On 3000 hands regular type of player cbeting 62/37/25 - I think this is easy fold - he doesn´t cbet KJ for value and he doesn´t 3 barrel as a bluff.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The question is : is he 3 barreling with weaker here.


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Stevie8
Joined: 24.06.2012

He has 23 steal from CO


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

Why no 3bet pre?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

SB vs CO we can 3 bet pre with AKs.


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

3 bet pre is better imo vs. reg who steals 23 from CO. I expect to be called with hands like AQ, Axs which you dominate.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

4 handed AK is the nuts - we should expand our range given that it's 4 handed and we need to defend more as we will be in the blinds more

AKs is mandatory 3bet but yeah - range need to be wayy wider 4 handed to 3balling


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Volrath89
Joined: 23.07.2008

Originally posted by mattyvx
4 handed AK is the nuts ...

Agree 100%!!

OP's initial reasoning might have a valid point... if only you had something like AJ or KQ; and also if you were playing IP. OOP is harder end EV- in the long run to play just about any hand, if you have to fold AKs on the river even when HITTING, what's the point of cold calling anything OOP preflop?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The problem is the board is dry and even KQ now beat us.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

Originally posted by mattyvx
4 handed AK is the nuts - we should expand our range given that it's 4 handed and we need to defend more as we will be in the blinds more

AKs is mandatory 3bet but yeah - range need to be wayy wider 4 handed to 3balling

Interesting I was never thinking about it so maybe I will tell something stupid and find a leak in my game. Why to expand our range if we are 4 handed? Does it mean that we should also steal on the CO more 4 handed than 6 handed? Why just not to play our normal ranges (CO open range, BB defend vs CO etc.)? Of course our total VPIP and PFR will be higher since we don´t play UTG and MP.

About 3bet - agree that it´s a standard play but I don´t hate call in some situations.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

AK is standard 3 bet from these positions no matter 4-5-6 handed...


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

4 handed should be more agressive because we are in the blinds more and there is more incentive to steal to make money and avoid bleeding from blinds

Just as in heads up your vpip should be much wider for the same reason.

Poker works because of blinds, less people = more requirement to play and steal

Also you can play a wider range beause it's less likely villians have a strong hand so your pre flop fold equity is likely increased if villians do not adjust


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not argue about that. I am just saying that AKs is enough for 3bet 2-3-4-5-6 handed.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

Agree was reponding to ales


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