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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

Thanks for the fast reply you should have A&E in the name somewhere :f_biggrin:,

That does make a lot of sense when you put it in them words, logically why would I want to raise when I believe he is going to stack off light, with a hand I cannot call him with, the reason I raised bigger I thought we had to raise 2.5x there raise but 25bb would be much better, I did initially 4bet because I know his calling range is almost 100% of the hands he doesn't 5bet shove, witch them hands are the hands that dominate me, his range for 3 betting from SB was ridiculously high,

I think the bottom line here is, like you said, when I new he was tilting I needed to altar my strategy to suit and only 4bet hands I can call vs a shove.

I agree with them ranges too.

Thanks for the advice it really helped.

Peace :f_thumbsup:


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

Hi double2,

Could I request you visit this page and help me with these 3 hands I was playing vs this reg I seemed to struggle in a few spots, since you spotted the mistakes I made immediately in that hand I posted above :f_biggrin:, when you have time of course.

playing vs a reg


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Hi guys, we are going to have coachings in the next 2 Thursdays.

I was thinking about doing 1 session review from a member in each of these coachings.

The idea is: send me a ~45 min video of you playing live, no sound. 2 tables of Zoom or 4 regular tables. Minimum stakes: 25NL

So please, show your interest here, post your video links (dropbox or google drive, for example)


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asimos
Joined: 22.07.2011

Originally posted by double2
Hi guys, we are going to have coachings in the next 2 Thursdays.

I was thinking about doing 1 session review from a member in each of these coachings.

The idea is: send me a ~45 min video of you playing live, no sound. 2 tables of Zoom or 4 regular tables. Minimum stakes: 25NL

So please, show your interest here, post your video links (dropbox or google drive, for example)

Great!!
Will send a video soon :f_drink:
Count me in !!


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Okay guys, here is the party plan, review of a recorded live session:

19th November (tomorrow) - member duder1n0, 50nl Zoom
26th November - member asimos, 100nl Zoom

I know both these players, I think this could be very very interesting, hope you guys show up.

See you tomorrow!


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strikerp
Joined: 25.07.2007

Nice & in _thumbsup:


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foarte tare


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metalmonkey80
Joined: 15.08.2013

Hi Double2. Finally made the transition to 6-max today. I haven't any hands to post yet, but looking forward to the coaching.
Regards

Matt


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strikerp
Joined: 25.07.2007

A short (maybe stupid) theory question:
Do we have to balance our 5b shove ranges?
Example spot: We are IP 3betting vs UTG, UTG 4bets we 5b shove. By default I would just call the 4b with QQ and most of the time with AK, and shove only with KK+. If villain knows we're only shoving KK+ here, he will have an easy fold with every hand except AA.
Maybe balance with some AK combos turning into a bluff? It's sometimes the case, I feel like villain's folding to much to a 5b, which gives me an opportunity to turn some AK combos into a 5b shove bluff (nice blocker vs his offcalling range).
Do you have some nice input to these topics?:)
Ty


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Originally posted by strikerp
A short (maybe stupid) theory question:
Do we have to balance our 5b shove ranges?
Example spot: We are IP 3betting vs UTG, UTG 4bets we 5b shove. By default I would just call the 4b with QQ and most of the time with AK, and shove only with KK+. If villain knows we're only shoving KK+ here, he will have an easy fold with every hand except AA.
Maybe balance with some AK combos turning into a bluff? It's sometimes the case, I feel like villain's folding to much to a 5b, which gives me an opportunity to turn some AK combos into a 5b shove bluff (nice blocker vs his offcalling range).
Do you have some nice input to these topics?:)
Ty

I mention this somewhere in one of my videos. 5bet ranges should not be polarized, unless with some read on villain. That means we do have a clear "bluff" shove range. But that does not mean we can't profitably shove hands that kinda work like a bluff. And the obvious example is AK. We are never happy when villain calls our shove when we hold AK, even if it is BB vs BU, we would rather he folded, so we can't really call it a "bluff" shove. But it's still the most +EV way to play the hand, given the amounts of folds it gets (given the blockers) and the okay equity it was once it gets called.

In your example, it gets kinda tricky. In my opinion calling 4bets with AK does not work very well, once we 3bet I think we are better off just jamming over the 4bet. But if villain opens tight enough (like 16% or less), then flat calling instead of 3betting starts to make sense. And in that case we end up just jamming KK+, but if we are balanced then villain should probably just not 4bet ever.

Does this make sense?


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strikerp
Joined: 25.07.2007

Thx, most of it seems reasonable, i'll have a look for the video:)
Just the part with jamming AKo instead of calling a 4bet is not that clear atm. I did some calculations on it, assumed players opens around 18% and 4bets 13% (~2,4% range) if facing a 3bet from IP. 50% of his 4bet Range is KK+ and AKs, the other 50% are bluffs like some AXs, KQs or some playabilty combos.
If the sizings are like 3bb open, 9bb 3b, 22bb 4b a shove (100bb) with AKo seems to be -EV (w/o rake considered) (-91 + 0,5*0,26*200 + 0,5*123,5 = -3,25bb). If we call instead vs the 4bet with AKo we play IP with 48% Equity (don't think we realise the entire equity, but we just need to realise around <30%). So in this case, if villain opens >16% but <20% which is common from EP/MP for many regs on my actual limit imo, is 3bet/call vs 4bet > cold call > 3bet/shove or did I make a mistake here?
Sorry if the post is a bit confusing (I hope it's not):P


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

You end up getting more folds with the shove given the blockers, AK blocks 1/3 of the KK+ combos. But I agree it's probably not clear cut between the options, although for 18%+ open raise flat calling is probably the least good option.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by double2
You end up getting more folds with the shove given the blockers, AK blocks 1/3 of the KK+ combos.

Hey double, I think it blocks half of them. Possibilities go down from 6 combos to 3 each.
If I m wrong, please correct me.


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by double2
You end up getting more folds with the shove given the blockers, AK blocks 1/3 of the KK+ combos.

Hey double, I think it blocks half of them. Possibilities go down from 6 combos to 3 each.
If I m wrong, please correct me.

Yes, that's true, half of the KK+ combos, ~1/3 of AK/KK+ overall.


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Hi guys,

tomorrow the coaching will be in a Q&A format. So feel free to post here, or in the chat during the coaching, any poker related question, whether it is strategy related (ranges, boards, theory, etc) or off table stuff (mental game, planning, expectations, win rates, my experience, etc). I'll try and answer the best I can.
I'll award a PPC (public private coaching) to the person that asks the question that I like the most.

See you then!


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

When to not 3b bluff ? (posted 8 hands)
I've selected my regular 3b bluff range in spots where i didnt do it

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Hand #1 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
villain raises limper 25% and folds to 3b 65% ... if i 3b i make instant profit, if fish doesnt cold call... but if i call i keep the fish in ?

Hero (BTN): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
SB: $25.00 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 24, 3B: 7, AF: 2.3, Hands: 1752
BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 2.2, Hands: 4860
UTG: $11.50 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 10
MP: $25.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.3, Hands: 8014
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 2.4, Hands: 16288

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q :diamond: J :club:
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.35) 2 :diamond: 6 :diamond: 8 :spade: (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2.14, UTG folds, CO folds
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Hand #2 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
villain folds to 3b 45% , not much info in 3b pots but in single raised pots he folds to CB 43% ( WTSD =35% )

Hero (BTN): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
SB: $36.81 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2.3, Hands: 556
BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 186
UTG: $31.39 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 16, AF: 2.1, Hands: 434
MP: $25.34 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 22, 3B: 10, AF: 2.3, Hands: 14748
CO: $33.14 - VPIP: 71, PFR: 25, 3B: 9, AF: 1.6, Hands: 24

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q :club: K :heart:
UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 7 :club: 4 :spade: K :club: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.18, UTG calls $1.18

Turn: ($4.21) J :diamond: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.01, UTG folds
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Hand #3 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
villain is an ultra NIT.... low fold to CB ... 33% fold to 3b ... i think i should just fold preflop with AJ

SB: $30.74 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.8, Hands: 5366
BB: $26.65 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 3.7, Hands: 612
UTG: $8.40 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 2.8, Hands: 293
MP: $16.58 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.9, Hands: 990
CO: $25.93 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 18, 3B: 9, AF: 2.3, Hands: 1706
Hero (BTN): $25.35 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: J :heart:
UTG raises to $0.62, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.62, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.59) Q :heart: 3 :diamond: 8 :spade: (2 players)
UTG bets $1.06, Hero folds
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Hand #4 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
villain is a 62/23 whale

UTG: $31.39 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 2.1, Hands: 5300
CO: $20.57 - VPIP: 64, PFR: 23, 3B: 17, AF: 1.0, Hands: 22
Hero (BTN): $52.44 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
SB: $21.44 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 1.0, Hands: 45
BB: $27.28 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 6.0, Hands: 102

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K :heart: 7 :heart:
1 fold, CO raises to $0.50, 3 folds
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Hand #5 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
villain opens 30% from CO and has 39% fold to 3b ....... and 28% fold to CB in 3b pots
Do i need a 3b bluff range vs this "reg" ?

CO: $27.54 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 2.1, Hands: 5300
Hero (BTN): $33.81 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
SB: $25.35 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 9, AF: 3.1, Hands: 11956
BB: $28.72 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 6.0, Hands: 102
UTG: $25.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 3, AF: 2.3, Hands: 960

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T :spade: K :heart:
1 fold, CO raises to $0.75, 3 folds
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Hand #6 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
villain folds to 3b 62% ... was scared that the original limper cold calls ? Do i want to play 3way with 45s ?

UTG: $13.58 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 20
MP: $25.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 53
CO: $45.84 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 2.0, Hands: 513
Hero (BTN): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
SB: $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 22, 3B: 11, AF: 3.8, Hands: 5491
BB: $83.49 - VPIP: 54, PFR: 23, 3B: 13, AF: 0.0, Hands: 13

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 4 :spade: 5 :spade:
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) Q :spade: T :diamond: A :spade: (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1.92, BB folds, UTG folds
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Hand #7 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
villain has 50% fold to 3b and 40% fold to cbet... plus the limper might cold call and then villain will call for odds ?!

BB: $23.73 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 8, AF: 5.1, Hands: 219
UTG: $25.28 - VPIP: 81, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 0.8, Hands: 64
MP: $25.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 2.9, Hands: 5984
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 1.7, Hands: 487
Hero (BTN): $29.04 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
SB: $22.08 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 1.0, Hands: 471

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J :diamond: 7 :diamond:
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 4 :spade: 8 :diamond: 6 :heart: (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1.50, BB raises to $4.12, UTG folds, CO folds
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Hand #8 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
villain is 36/21 and folded to 3b 0 times out of 1 time

UTG: $25.35 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 59
CO: $26.51 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 21, 3B: 7, AF: 0.8, Hands: 34
Hero (BTN): $30.26 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
SB: $35.41 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 8, AF: 5.1, Hands: 219
BB: $25.35 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 1.3, Hands: 135

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q :diamond: 8 :diamond:
1 fold, CO raises to $0.75, 3 folds


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

When to not squeeze ? (13 hands from BB)

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Hand #1 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em
BTN has high Fold to SQZ ..... do i really want to isolate the whale or i want to see cheaper flops?

UTG: $25.00 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, AF: 0.5, Hands: 178
CO: $33.07 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 3.4, Hands: 5087
BTN: $25.35 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 2.3, Hands: 1394
SB: $34.96 - VPIP: 55, PFR: 12, 3B: 10, AF: 1.4, Hands: 33
Hero (BB): $33.46 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 :heart: J :heart:
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.62, SB calls $0.52, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.86) K :heart: A :heart: 4 :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.86) 3 :spade: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, BTN folds, SB folds
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Hand #2 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
same as Hand 1 ... dont think sqz will achieve something good ?

SB: $20.83 - VPIP: 61, PFR: 17, 3B: 14, AF: 1.8, Hands: 36
Hero (BB): $33.14 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $25.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 437
CO: $25.27 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 2.1, Hands: 5300
BTN: $25.00 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 23, 3B: 8, AF: 2.5, Hands: 11868

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 6 :diamond: Q :diamond:
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 2 :diamond: 4 :heart: T :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.50) 8 :diamond: (3 players)
SB bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.80, BTN folds, SB folds
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Hand #3 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
i dont like to call here but .... do i have another option since the fish will call a sqz and the red will get odds to call ?!?

CO: $27.13 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.0, Hands: 683
BTN: $29.81 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 2.4, Hands: 911
SB: $98.75 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 2.3, Hands: 1394
Hero (BB): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $55.05 - VPIP: 57, PFR: 42, 3B: 26, AF: 2.8, Hands: 122

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A :heart: T :club:
UTG raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.60) K :heart: 8 :diamond: J :club: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: ($1.60) T :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.91, CO calls $0.91, Hero folds

River: ($3.42) J :diamond: (2 players)
UTG checks, CO bets $2.50, UTG folds
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Hand #4 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
Here neither guys like to fold to sqz... and only option is to call , right ?

BTN: $25.00 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 2.1, Hands: 5300
SB: $11.55 - VPIP: 63, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 24
Hero (BB): $29.03 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 9, AF: 3.1, Hands: 11956

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 9 :heart: Q :club:
1 fold, BTN raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 2 :spade: 6 :club: T :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, SB folds, Hero folds
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Hand #5 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
here i missed an obvious iso sqz ?
reg likes to fold ... and i got position and initiative vs whale... so ?

MP: $27.76 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 20, AF: 13.0, Hands: 70
CO: $24.55 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 11, 3B: 7, AF: 5.0, Hands: 35
BTN: $25.93 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.5, Hands: 14053
SB: $25.42 - VPIP: 54, PFR: 20, 3B: 6, AF: 0.6, Hands: 46
Hero (BB): $33.97 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $25.25 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 9, AF: 2.6, Hands: 830

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with T :diamond: J :club:
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 4 :club: 2 :heart: 7 :heart: (3 players)
SB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, UTG raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, Hero folds

Turn: ($6.00) 3 :diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $2.86, SB calls $2.86

River: ($11.72) Q :club: (2 players)
SB bets $5.59, UTG calls $5.59
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Hand #6 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
i am throwing money if i sqz here ? ... i will see a flop definetely!

BTN: $21.47 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 19, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 16
SB: $46.14 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 10, AF: 1.9, Hands: 34722
Hero (BB): $25.85 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $25.25 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 508
CO: $33.13 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 20, 3B: 6, AF: 4.0, Hands: 141

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with T :spade: Q :spade:
1 fold, CO raises to $0.62, BTN calls $0.62, SB calls $0.52, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($2.48) A :club: 5 :club: 9 :diamond: (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $1.88, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero folds
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Hand #7 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
77 is ok for set mining and is an ok spot to sqz.... what do i prefer ?

UTG: $25.71 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2.0, Hands: 4185
CO: $24.14 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 4, AF: 2.7, Hands: 82
BTN: $32.18 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 5.3, Hands: 432
SB: $24.00 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 2.7, Hands: 476
Hero (BB): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 :diamond: 7 :spade:
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 3 :diamond: 9 :club: J :club: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.50) 8 :spade: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.50) 9 :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks
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Hand #8 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
can't sqz here , cause i might get 2 callers ?!

MP: $12.40 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 30, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 10
CO: $26.47 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 2.1, Hands: 1972
BTN: $25.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 3.1, Hands: 1453
SB: $29.86 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 8, AF: 2.1, Hands: 6470
Hero (BB): $28.93 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $35.44 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 101

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 9 :heart: Q :diamond:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.60) Q :spade: K :diamond: A :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Hero folds

Turn: ($2.60) J :club: (2 players)
MP bets $1.24, CO calls $1.24

River: ($5.08) 5 :spade: (2 players)
MP bets $2.42, CO raises to $24.23, MP calls $7.74 all in
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Hand #9 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Here the fish has a high fold to sqz... and i got a decent hand... so ?

UTG: $33.66 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2.0, Hands: 4185
CO: $29.94 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 10, AF: 1.9, Hands: 34722
BTN: $16.35 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 2.1, Hands: 3258
SB: $25.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 5.3, Hands: 432
Hero (BB): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A :club: T :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.62, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.62, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.96) K :heart: 6 :heart: T :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $0.93, Hero calls $0.93, UTG folds

Turn: ($3.82) 2 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($6.82) 7 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.00, Hero calls $3
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Hand #10 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
here they both have high fold to sqz... so is A7 too weak or something ?

BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 2.5, Hands: 14355
SB: $28.84 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 1.8, Hands: 20950
Hero (BB): $42.15 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $27.49 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 1.6, Hands: 240
CO: $29.75 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.9, Hands: 427

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 :heart: A :club:
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.56, SB calls $0.46, Hero calls $0.31

Flop: ($1.68) 5 :club: 7 :diamond: 9 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, BTN folds, SB folds
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Hand #11 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
i can iso the fish here with a sqz... do i want to inflate the pot?

BTN: $25.00 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 3.1, Hands: 177
SB: $21.70 - VPIP: 56, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: 0.7, Hands: 9
Hero (BB): $46.94 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $17.59 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 19, 3B: 3, AF: 1.4, Hands: 101
MP: $29.79 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 1.6, Hands: 240
CO: $25.68 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.9, Hands: 427

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Q :club: T :diamond:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.50, 2 folds, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 2 :diamond: 4 :diamond: 9 :club: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($1.50) J :spade: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.24, MP folds, SB calls $1.24

River: ($3.98) 6 :heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.30, SB calls $3.30
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Hand #12 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
here since i have no ideea what to do , i calll

BTN: $26.13 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 3.1, Hands: 177
SB: $39.32 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 3.6, Hands: 257
Hero (BB): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $26.38 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.2, Hands: 20290
MP: $27.40 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 1372
CO: $18.39 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 5, 3B: 1, AF: 1.4, Hands: 405

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 :spade: 7 :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 5 :diamond: 6 :spade: 3 :diamond: (3 players)
Hero bets $1.70, UTG folds, CO folds
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Hand #13 - Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
77 too weak to iso the fish ?

BTN: $10.25 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 24614
SB: $25.90 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 3, AF: 2.3, Hands: 960
Hero (BB): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 261196
UTG: $24.81 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 5.0, Hands: 105
CO: $27.24 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 24, 3B: 5, AF: 3.5, Hands: 755

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 :heart: 7 :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 4 :club: Q :spade: K :diamond: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1.25, Hero folds, UTG folds


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strikerp
Joined: 25.07.2007

Hi,
nice, Q&A:s_thumbsup:

Question(s), regarding the topic vs. squeeze as PFR:

Wich part/percentage of our RFI range should we defend on average in a vacuum spot vs a squeeze? Are there important things we should consider (e.g. in building up our range, like to avoid offsuited combos in our calling range, ..)?
Example spot:
We open in MP to 3bb, BTN calls, BB squeezes to 13bb.
So we have to defend together around 1-12/19,5=38,5%.
Let's assume BTN defends 20% when we fold, so we can fold around 77% of our RFI range (to deny autoprofit). Since villain is realizing some equity when we call, we have to defend more, so fold maybe around 70%?

Do you agree with the numbers, and what's your approach here in general vs squeezes?

See you l8er.


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bonecore
Joined: 02.11.2009

When to not squeeze ? (13 hands from SB)
Note... this hands are normal sqz if there is not a caller... but in this situation ?!?!

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Hand #1
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BB: $27.76 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 2.9, Hands: 177
UTG: $30.10 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 20, 3B: 11, AF: 4.2, Hands: 461
MP: $35.41 - VPIP: 74, PFR: 8, 3B: 3, AF: 1.8, Hands: 95
CO: $17.05 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 2.1, Hands: 3022
BTN: $25.35 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 8445
Hero (SB): $35.20 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 :heart: 9 :diamond:
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $1.30, BTN calls $1.30, Hero calls $1.20, 1 fold, MP calls $1.05

Flop: ($5.45) 3 :club: 6 :spade: Q :spade: (4 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN bets $3.00, Hero folds, MP folds, CO folds
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Hand #2
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 2.6, Hands: 12772
UTG: $23.29 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 26, 3B: 24, AF: 2.7, Hands: 65
MP: $28.35 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.8, Hands: 5366
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 3.4, Hands: 1663
BTN: $46.26 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2.6, Hands: 52208
Hero (SB): $25.10 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J :heart: T :heart:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) A :spade: 6 :club: Q :club: (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.55, BTN folds, Hero folds
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Hand #3
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

CO: $28.30 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 32
BTN: $5.49 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 15
Hero (SB): $29.61 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $25.61 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 6, 3B: 5, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1512
UTG: $25.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 2.2, Hands: 439

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with T :spade: 9 :spade:
1 fold, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB raises to $25.61, 1 fold, BTN calls $4.74 all in, 1 fold

Flop: ($12.48) 2 :heart: 2 :diamond: 4 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($12.48) T :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($12.48) 8 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)
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Hand #4
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

BTN: $20.33 - VPIP: 48, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 33
Hero (SB): $31.38 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $26.21 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 18981
UTG: $31.11 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2.9, Hands: 715
CO: $31.52 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.0, Hands: 195

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K :heart: J :heart:
UTG raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.00) 5 :club: K :club: T :diamond: (4 players)
Hero bets $1.00, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1, BTN calls $1

Turn: ($7.00) 7 :club: (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4.00, UTG folds, BTN folds, Hero folds
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Hand #5
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

BB: $11.38 - VPIP: 87, PFR: 50, 3B: 4, AF: 8.3, Hands: 208
UTG: $27.35 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 1.7, Hands: 1313
CO: $24.39 - VPIP: 36, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 33
BTN: $27.61 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.3, Hands: 1788
Hero (SB): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 :diamond: 9 :club:
UTG raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 2 :club: 5 :spade: K :diamond: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.24, CO folds, Hero folds
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Hand #6
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players

CO: $21.68 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 33, 3B: 33, AF: 1.0, Hands: 6
BTN: $25.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 2.3, Hands: 20797
Hero (SB): $26.85 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $11.60 - VPIP: 82, PFR: 6, 3B: 14, AF: 4.5, Hands: 17

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 :diamond: 9 :club:
CO raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($2.00) 8 :heart: Q :club: 6 :diamond: (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.00) 4 :spade: (4 players)
Hero bets $1.00, BB folds, CO calls $1, BTN folds

River: ($4.00) 9 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.55, CO calls $2.55
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Hand #7
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 2.1, Hands: 29226
BTN: $26.50 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.8, Hands: 5366
Hero (SB): $61.94 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $62.99 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 1.4, Hands: 1197
UTG: $25.00 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 1, 3B: 0, AF: 1.6, Hands: 9005

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J :heart: K :heart:
1 fold, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) K :diamond: A :diamond: J :diamond: (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.50) 7 :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

River: ($2.50) 4 :club: (3 players)
Hero bets $1.00, CO folds, BTN folds
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Hand #8
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

MP: $25.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 1.6, Hands: 617
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.2, Hands: 525
BTN: $27.08 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 48
Hero (SB): $49.23 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 1.5, Hands: 28801
UTG: $25.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 9, AF: 1.7, Hands: 168

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with T :heart: A :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.78, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.78, Hero calls $0.68, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.59) 2 :spade: 7 :diamond: 8 :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.48, BTN folds, Hero folds
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Hand #9
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BTN: $20.04 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 25, 3B: 9, AF: 2.2, Hands: 52
Hero (SB): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 4.1, Hands: 21160
UTG: $65.98 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 1.3, Hands: 137
MP: $25.92 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.6, Hands: 35748
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 2.3, Hands: 20600

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J :spade: T :spade:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) A :diamond: 5 :diamond: A :heart: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.50) K :club: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero folds, MP folds
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Hand #10
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

MP: $27.47 - VPIP: 37, PFR: 25, 3B: 12, AF: 3.6, Hands: 1667
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 1.5, Hands: 40197
BTN: $23.38 - VPIP: 57, PFR: 33, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 4291
Hero (SB): $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $26.24 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.4, Hands: 572
UTG: $26.64 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 9826

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J :heart: K :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.62, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.62, Hero calls $0.52, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.11) 9 :club: J :spade: J :club: (3 players)
Hero bets $1.00, MP calls $1, BTN folds

Turn: ($4.11) A :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.63, MP raises to $8.60, Hero calls $5.97

River: ($21.31) 8 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks
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Hand #11
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

CO: $25.35 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 40672
BTN: $24.65 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 0.0, Hands: 61
Hero (SB): $32.25 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 2579
UTG: $24.65 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 4.5, Hands: 969

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A :heart: T :heart:
UTG raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.25) 2 :spade: 2 :club: 3 :club: (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN folds, Hero folds

Turn: ($6.75) 2 :heart: (2 players)
UTG bets $3.50, CO folds
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Hand #12
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

Hero (SB): $40.25 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994
BB: $45.46 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 1.4, Hands: 185
UTG: $25.35 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 2.8, Hands: 20335
MP: $25.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 40672
CO: $25.97 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 2.5, Hands: 472
BTN: $33.53 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 96475

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q :spade: A :heart:
UTG raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) T :diamond: A :diamond: 6 :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.60, CO folds, Hero calls $1.60

Turn: ($5.70) Q :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3.70, Hero calls $3.70

River: ($13.10) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, UTG folds
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Hand #13
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 1.5, Hands: 40197
UTG: $28.75 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.5, Hands: 15970
MP: $25.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2.8, Hands: 7325
CO: $67.12 - VPIP: 61, PFR: 42, 3B: 27, AF: 4.1, Hands: 257
BTN: $25.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 96475
Hero (SB): $28.63 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 262994

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 :diamond: 9 :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 7 :heart: 3 :diamond: 7 :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $2.00, Hero calls $2, MP folds

Turn: ($6.50) 8 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($6.50) 6 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.10, Hero calls $3.10


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very good lesson


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