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86s, OESD on the flop, multiway

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chrischan0683
Joined: 23.08.2007

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $14.98 (149.8 bb)
BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $29.97 (299.7 bb)
MP: $10.87 (108.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $10.25 (102.5 bb)
BTN: $2.06 (20.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8♠: 6♠:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 7♣: 2♥: 9♠: (3 players)
BB bets $0.64, Hero calls $0.64, BTN raises to $1.76 and is all-in, BB calls $1.12, Hero calls $1.12

Turn: ($6.23) 4♦: (3 players, 1 is all-in)
BB bets $2.80, Hero?

What would BB donk here? Sets for sure. Maybe TT or JJ or 9x. Or would he have squeezed JJ? Is calling Ok or do you raise? Would also be fine to keep BTN in the hand a hit on the turn.. ;) But BTN pushes and i call which im not sure if that was good or at least ok... ;)

Turn call also bad? Either fold or shove a better option? Problem is that if i shove and BB folds i will only get his turn bet since BTN has a made hand for sure.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

It is multiway and there is very big risk that everyone checks so basically BB should be leading with almost any kind of hit.
When short stack BTN shoves, he can also have pretty much anything, probably a made hand but not necessarily strong. Calling seems good after BB just calls too. You get decent odds.
OTT villain bets small and I think you have to call again.


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

We get the wrong odds to call the turn.


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KingKlaas
Joined: 13.12.2008

But implied odds are important too :f_smile:


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by scopinad
We get the wrong odds to call the turn.

Yea looks that way. I just guessed earlier.
So we need almost 24% equity but with OESD we have around 16%? (now I'm guessing again )
That would mean we have to get around 5$ more OTR if we hit. That would be about 1/2 pot and since our hand is pretty disguised and villain took an aggressive line OTF I think we might be able to get that.

But yea I think folding would be fine too.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I would fold to flop raise. Villain is short, but we mustn´t forget, that we are only drawing. And there is still 3rd player. After BB calls I would fold it. I don´t feel comfortable in this spot with OESD.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Without calculating it I would say we have to call OTF. When BB calls too we get too good odds, or at least it looks like that.


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