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Facing huge raise shove on flop w TP+ FD

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guz28
Joined: 04.08.2010

So I picked this spot to squeeze w A6s. I flop huge and put on a bet 4way and the dude shoves in my face.. It´s a huge 300bb pot if I make this call.. I did timebank a ton before making the fold. After this session was over I played around a bit in equilab and assuming he only does this w set I have around 30%. If we add A7 and A3 for a 2pair I have 38% and if we add 3 combos of FD I have 46%. Since I need 40% to call I think I made the correct fold vs an unknown player at NL25z. What do you guys think? Should I have gone for the c/c or c/r instead?

As I´m currently running 8Bi under EV in around 10k hands I would have lost this for sure 100% of the times so for sure a good fold :f_biggrin:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 40.16 BB (VPIP: 24.32, PFR: 12.16, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 80)
Hero (SB): 308.44 BB
BB: 90.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: 122.08 BB (VPIP: 16.37, PFR: 10.54, 3Bet Preflop: 3.41, Hands: 458)
MP: 144.8 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 146.36 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ 6♦

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, BB calls 7 BB, MP calls 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop: (32 BB, 4 players) 7♦ A♥ 3♦
Hero bets 14 BB, fold, MP raises to 136.8 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

MP wins 57.28 BB


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

it is not even close to folding.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

I like a 20-25 pct cbetting or check here.

Pre I prefer higher Broadways vs MP and 40bb cold caller and bigger size for sure deep with this one .

And yeah the equity wise its close to folding Ginger -think you missed the 4way part and him shovelling with 2 more guys behind him

Problem is it's still a donky line and he can show up with random AK and fd at micros so even though you don't print money I'd also say you do need to call


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

Hi Lemon, i really didn't see 4way action. That changes things, but still i can't find a fold. Guy is a fish most likely, reg would almost never direct shove strong hand here, and fish really tend to slowplay strong hands especially in 4way action on dry board. So i think it is going to be often enough Ax or draw.


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Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

Like the fold.


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Starfighter99
Joined: 04.04.2011

Problem is your Kicker, I would check Flop and Call Turn/decide RIver or Bet Flop+Turn and check River.

Fold against his shoving Range (AK,2pair,Set and maybe KQs,QJs,KJs,KTs,QTs) is ok.

Most people dont have enough weaker draws in their Range and most of them just call their draws in this Spot.


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