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AQo ace high vs river bet

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robin261187
Joined: 04.01.2011

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 94 BB
SB: 53 BB
BB: 124.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 115.5 BB
MP: 194.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 231.5 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ Q♦

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) T♦ J♣ J♦
Hero bets 7 BB, fold, BTN calls 7 BB

Turn: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 2♠
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 4♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Spoiler

BTN shows K♦ Q♥ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 26%, Flop 30%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows A♠ Q♦ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 74%, Flop 70%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins 47 BB

Pretty standard hand before the flop.

I don't know about cbetting the flop. There are few Tx in my range, villains have some overcards, medium suited conectors e medium pairs. I couldn't c-bet as a bluff, but I had a gutshot and two overs, that could improve. What do you think?

On the turn I checked. Perhaps, could c-bet again?

On the river, villain bets after my raise. I think I demonstrated weakness by checking the turn and river. Villain's equity didn't improve on any of the last two streets. With most medium strength made hands, I think he would check back because he would win the showdown and it didn't make any sense for him in betting as a bluff a medium made hand. I see a lot of busted flush and straight draws on his range. Since I have some showdown value with the AQo and I don't think villain has a lot of AK, what do you think of calling here?


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

If you bet that flop you have to keep on and it might get tricky. In doubt checking is better (and probably more standard even if we don't really care).

OTR it's meh, there are draws but there are made hands, they can totally value thin a Tx or even turn a low PP into a bluff or whatever goes into their poor head. Can't be that bad of a call anyway given the odds, not the type of spot worth getting a headache fine tuning it I'd say.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

I think overall is ok. Bet-check-check line is better than bet-bet-check. River price is "ok" as he has some bluffs with no showdown value in his range and you have A high.
This is a hand that plays better IP, so it can become a bit tricky.
Now the details
- Flop cbet is too big to me. I'd check here sometimes. Has floxy said, by betting the flop you have a turn cbet often and it can become diffcult for the river, where you may have to throw a 3rd barrel. You start building a pot and it can end up playing for stacks with a mediocre hand.
- He has position, some made hands and tons of draws in his range. He won't fold OTF often. You can even face a raise.
- Check raising flops as the agressor is a subject I don't understand very well (yet), so I can't really discuss that line.
- Check-call flop and re-evaluate OTT is my option here. Villain probing twice would be a little suspicious and I'd be willing to turn my hand into a bluff at that point.


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eudodo
Joined: 11.05.2008

It's all fine in my opinion apart flop CB - on a dry board you do not need to bet so big.
And you should be CB these flops as played, most often you have the best hand, you keep the initiative ...


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

Cbet smaller on the flop so you can cbet the turn as well. This way you also know you have to fold the river if he bets.
I don't think I would call OTR as played, this just seems like a value bet most of the time.


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