20$ | 18 man| post | A7o

I think you got the value on turn. x/x river in my opinion.

shove turn is not good, check back is even worse. You wanna extract value from little pairs+GS and all that kind of hands that otherwise fold to shove

don´t be result oriented

Turn is a high freq barrel, so we wanna use a small sizing again on the turn.

Originally posted by JCSeerup
Turn is a high freq barrel, so we wanna use a small sizing again on the turn.

No way any solver will suggest you using small sizing here. A is good card for our range and ppl know we will bluff also this card a lot, no 9x hand folds there, fl/dr also calling, cant believe gutshots + pair etc. hands folds on oversized bet on turn. river bet has no value (only if we want to valuebet ourselves) :-)

Hmm.. A7o actually uses a larger size (60%) when we bet 40% on the flop because it's primarily being checked with those options. I would usually run this spot with 25%, 60% and AI on the flop which would allow us the bet more and we would split A7o on the turn.

The EV of betting 60% is 25.2 and the EV of betting 25% is 25.0, so it's not exactly a huge difference.

i dont agree with 60% size naming it a larger size, you must go more to 70-75% rather than 60% or less

Didn't add a size between 60% and AI to run the sim quicker, so 60% became the "larger" option. Also don't think we want to bet 1100-1200 into a 1800 stack.

Originally posted by JCSeerup
Hmm.. A7o actually uses a larger size (60%) when we bet 40% on the flop because it's primarily being checked with those options. I would usually run this spot with 25%, 60% and AI on the flop which would allow us the bet more and we would split A7o on the turn.

The EV of betting 60% is 25.2 and the EV of betting 25% is 25.0, so it's not exactly a huge difference.

You mean mixing the sizings on the flop, right?

Why do you use all-in sizing on the flop as well?

Is it pure mathematics or is it also exploitative play to some extent as well?

Originally posted by Axif1

Originally posted by JCSeerup
Hmm.. A7o actually uses a larger size (60%) when we bet 40% on the flop because it's primarily being checked with those options. I would usually run this spot with 25%, 60% and AI on the flop which would allow us the bet more and we would split A7o on the turn.

The EV of betting 60% is 25.2 and the EV of betting 25% is 25.0, so it's not exactly a huge difference.

You mean mixing the sizings on the flop, right?

Why do you use all-in sizing on the flop as well?

Is it pure mathematics or is it also exploitative play to some extent as well?

Different boards = different sizings for best EV. Nowadays there are a lot of gto pre and postflop tools that show best ev strategy which is balanced with range you play for exact spot. So you MUST use very different sizings 20% 30% 60% 85% 120% etc. even bigger overbets in stacksizes up to 40bbs

You can join me in discord for more analysis if you want. Jaunais#2754

Originally posted by Axif1

Wtf is this? :-)