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[Closed] NL100 KK facing donkbet on 864cc board against 3 people

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DeKuip
Joined: 07.03.2008

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($100)
BB ($109)
Hero ($149)
UTG+1 ($233)
CO ($112)
BTN ($103)

Dealt to Hero K♦ K♥

Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $4, fold, BTN calls $4, SB calls $3.50, fold

FLOP ($17) 6♣ 8♣ 4♠

SB bets $14, Hero calls $14, UTG+1 calls $14, BTN folds

TURN ($59) 6♣ 8♣ 4♠ 5♣

SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $44, SB folds, Hero folds

UTG+1 wins $56.10

SB: 26/21/6.8 (3.1k hands). 3bet 6.8%, donkbet 23%, flop AFq 47%, flop AF 5.4. Tell me if you want more stats.
UTG+1: 95/13/1.2 (108 hands), this guy is a massive callingstation preflop, but often gives up his hand on flop or turn.
BU: 13/12/6 (163 hands), I guess he just a TAG.

The big donkbet made me doubt already, I was thinking about folding, calling and raising. I had no idea how to interpret this, especially with his stats.

I decided to call, which I think is probably the worst. Folding feels so bad, but raisen doesn't make me feel comfortable as well. On the turn he suddenly checks and since the worst card ever showed up, I decide to check and give up after the huge bet by the station.

Should I've raised the flop here?
I thought that maybe he would have some kind of draw, but even against that draw I'd probably be behind, or he has a set or just a pair due to his high donkbet%.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

SB's donk may not mean that much. He is donking so often and is quite aggressive - His hand range is not as strong as you think. I certainly wouldn't mind a raise/fold line here. On the other hand if you bet and he check/raised, I'm folding for sure in a multiway pot.

As played, easy fold on the turn. He got there with a straight/flush.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

This is a typical spot where stats are completely misapplied.
SB is a good player, so he might have some overall-concept to use donkbets a lot.
But in this spot he always has either a set or an absolute monsterdraw.
He's never bluffing in this spot because it's not profitable (not even close).
So i think you can actually fold on the flop.

Btw if you don't want to fold you should never call. It will just get you in very tough spots and you're still gettting valuetowned vs SBs valuerange.