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54$ 5m QQ vs a reg

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PetChoveka
Joined: 14.02.2010

SB BB and MP are regs / table selection - HELL YEAH /. we have been 3betting each other some on other tables.

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NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
SB ($2,000)
BB ($2,000)
UTG ($2,000)
Hero ($2,000)
BTN ($2,000)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ Q♠

UTG raises to $60, Hero raises to $180, fold, SB calls $170, BB raises to $2,000 (AI), fold, Hero calls $1,820 (AI), fold

Do u call the shove here. I kind of convinced myself to do it but im not sure if its good. Looks pretty strong and i think he aint 4b shoving as a bluff ever there. But his shove doesnt look that much like AA or KK to me in this spot.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

What about utg? Is he a loose opener? If he is, the cold 4b is more likely to be a move since your 3b requirement is less.

In a vacuum, I'm happy to give this up, even 6mx. SB has a hand since he cold calls. BB knows that and knows you are strong.

He also knows it looks absurdly strong to cold 4b here to 500 or so (i.e. KK+), so he jams KK+ (maybe QQ+ depending on the above) to level you into calling off QQ/AK, b/c you might think its AK.

Since you are 100bb deep I'm happy to look for a better spot.


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so standard with your reads. pretty standard without reads.

@tim, (MP = UTG in hero notes) in a vacuum its much closer. but with hero reads. i think this is quite a madatory stack-off.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
so standard with your reads. pretty standard without reads.

@tim, (MP = UTG in hero notes) in a vacuum its much closer. but with hero reads. i think this is quite a madatory stack-off.

What would you say is BB's cold 4b range here?

Separately, do you agree that he should be 4b shoving his entire 4b range for deception in this spot?

thx


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TT+ AK at LEAST. maybe 99+ AQ+ (and thats just his value range).

no i dont. i think a cold 4bet to 555 is pretty sexy here.

i could easily include a suited ace in my cold 4bet bluff range in this spot. and i think its very good with the dynamics.


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