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AQo 3bet vs agro fish deep

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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

partypoker - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 258.91 BB (VPIP: 35.03, PFR: 27.12, 3Bet Preflop: 9.86, Hands: 186)
Hero (SB): 306.21 BB
BB: 121 BB (VPIP: 19.33, PFR: 14.98, 3Bet Preflop: 6.56, Hands: 1,994)
CO: 95.86 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ A♦

fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) Q♠ 7♠ J♣
Hero bets 14.96 BB, BTN calls 14.96 BB

Turn: (50.92 BB, 2 players) 6♦
Hero bets 36.69 BB, BTN calls 36.69 BB

River: (124.3 BB, 2 players) 8♥
Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♣ A♦ (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 63%, Flop 76%, Turn 89%)
BTN mucks J♥ K♠ (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 37%, Flop 24%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 122.3 BB

Fold to 3bet 0/6 times, open BU 40%. Fold flop 1/9, turn 1/4.
I saw him calling very light, but it was 3 barrels bb vs BU for 50bb.

I think flop and turn is standard, river I think I made mistake by not betting? He is agro fish thats why I checked, draws missed. I am not sure if 1/2 is better than shove? I think shove is best vs him


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ETBrooD
Joined: 16.09.2009

Previously I always though that I had to let aggro fish bet their busted draws - which to some extent is true. That's the case more often when villain has the initiative because this type of player likes to fastplay strong draws on an early street.

What's really going on with aggro fish is that they want to outplay everyone, therefore the most important point is that they play very thinly. They think that when there are many busted draws out there then they have to call down with much of their SDV, because they themselves would bluff all of their busted draws, so in their mind everyone else is likely doing the same. Often they're right.

So I think value shoving such a runout is much better against these players. You'll see all sorts of ridiculous calldowns.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

It makes sense.

Next hand I hit AJo in 3bet pot and was barreling Jxx, he called flop air, turn gutshot river nuts, and I barreled 200bb :)


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Hi,

I think we should 3bet a bit bigger given the stack depth.

Flop and turn look solid.

Hmm, I don't think I would shove river, it's just a big overbet (195 into 125), I think we end up getting too much Hero fold but of course I could be mistaken and he might snap call AJ.

If that's the plan why not bet bigger flop and turn? I think that would make more sense.

EDIT: And yeah, I don't like the check, our hand is too good to check, maybe check/call KQ.


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